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Author Topic:   Faith Science - Logically Indefensible
Percy
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Message 151 of 166 (362352)
11-07-2006 6:20 AM
Reply to: Message 131 by foxjoe
11-06-2006 9:15 PM


Re: "Person of faith"
foxjoe writes:
subbie said:
Most scientists are in fact people of faith.
Please name 2?
It's often hard to know the religious beliefs of scientists because faith and religion is not a frequent topic in scientific circles, but here's a couple well known scientists who are "people of faith":
  • Ken Miller
  • Gerald Schroeder
But answering your question proves nothing. When someone states that most scientists believe in God they are usually referring to formal surveys that have been taken. I can't recall any precise figures, so I don't recall whether the figure for the number who believed in God was greater than 50%, but it was a hefty percentage.
People aren't drawn to science because they're atheistic religion haters. They're drawn to science because they love science, and they're people of all types, from the deeply religious to the deeply atheistic and everything in between.
Let me name a few that aren't of faith:
Einstein, Hawking, Dawkins, Gould,
Darwin, Huxley, Eldredge, Mayr, Simpson, Johanson, Leakey, Sagan, and Asimov
The survey I mentioned also revealed that the likelihood of belief in God decreases with increasing scientific accomplishment, and this list is consistent with that result since these are all very prominent scientists. But I'm not sure it could be accurately said that none of them are people of faith. For example, while Einstein could not be said to believe in God, and certainly not the Jewish God, he was an extremely spiritual person and a man of deep faith.
--Percy

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Percy
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Message 159 of 166 (362509)
11-07-2006 8:57 PM
Reply to: Message 153 by foxjoe
11-07-2006 6:09 PM


Re: "Person of faith"
You appear to have found a letter which pretty much backs up exactly what Anglagard's excerpt said. Did you read Anglagard's message, the one you replied to? It doesn't appear so, because the tone of your reply indicates that you think you found a contradiction.
--Percy

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