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dwise1
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Message 16 of 300 (367067)
11-30-2006 10:41 AM
Reply to: Message 14 by arachnophilia
11-30-2006 4:15 AM


i think the fact that humans are really stupid pack animals explains quite a lot about society as a whole.
No, we're not. We're pack-animal wanna-be's, which is even worse. Trying to emulate the life-style without all the requisite instincts in place.
no one person can do much of anything, if you really think about it. and 90% of the people out there can't even use the technology we've got, let alone explain how it works or construct something like it themselves.
Loved Asimov's take on that in the Foundation novels where the Foundation had started exporting technology as a religion. Say the right prayer and press the red button and it works.

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Brian
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Message 17 of 300 (367072)
11-30-2006 11:16 AM


Bring back capital punishment
My most controversial opinion, apparently, is I would like to see the death penalty reintroduced in the UK.
I think a murderer who planned and waited for their opportunity to slaughter an innocent adult or child doesn't deserve to live.
I also think that the punishments handed out in UK courts frequently verge on the obscene. I often wonder why the criminal is better treated than the victim.
Brian.
Edited by Brian, : grammar

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Hyroglyphx
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Message 18 of 300 (367080)
11-30-2006 11:35 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Utopia
11-29-2006 4:43 PM


If you wanted controversy, controversy so you shall have
Your list are themselves worthy of a long debate. We should probably narrow them down because the thread will just get complicated if we don't. Its up to you, seeing as you're the OP.
I don't think O.J. did it. I think his oldest son did.
I couldn't help but notice this one. You might be the only person on the planet that believes this. So, what kind of evidence exists to support such a lofty assertion?

Faith is not a pathetic sentiment, but robust, vigorous confidence built on the fact that God is holy love. You cannot see Him just now, you cannot fully understand what He's doing, but you know that you know Him." -Oswald Chambers

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Rail Bird
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Message 19 of 300 (367081)
11-30-2006 11:42 AM


My opinion rocks
I think Led Zeppelin was far superior to Black Sabbath. This may be controversial only at my house and probably of no interest to anyone under age 50.

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Coragyps
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Message 20 of 300 (367082)
11-30-2006 11:52 AM
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11-30-2006 11:42 AM


Re: My opinion rocks
I agree with you here, RB. "War Pigs" is the only possible competition with most all of Zep's work.

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tudwell
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Message 21 of 300 (367084)
11-30-2006 11:53 AM
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11-30-2006 11:42 AM


Re: My opinion rocks
This isn't really an opinion, but it might be contraversial. I've never listened to "Stairway to Heaven" (other than little snippets here and there), nor do I intend to.

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Modulous
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Message 22 of 300 (367088)
11-30-2006 12:04 PM
Reply to: Message 17 by Brian
11-30-2006 11:16 AM


Re: Bring back capital punishment
I also think that the punishments handed out in UK courts frequently verge on the obscene. I often wonder why the criminal is better treated than the victim.
Indeed - punishment shouldn't really mean 'free room and board in a place much nicer than where you live with free facilities and socialising opportunities.
Most of my opinions of controversial nature have already come up, but I'd like to add a corollary to yours. I think that the execution of the death penalty should be carried out by the closest victim (spouse or parent of murder victim for example).

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tudwell
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Message 23 of 300 (367091)
11-30-2006 12:07 PM
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11-30-2006 12:04 PM


Re: Bring back capital punishment
Indeed - punishment shouldn't really mean 'free room and board in a place much nicer than where you live with free facilities and socialising opportunities.
I guess the real question is should prisons be meant for punishment or rehabilitation?

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Modulous
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Message 24 of 300 (367094)
11-30-2006 12:11 PM
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11-30-2006 12:07 PM


Re: Bring back capital punishment
As it stands, they don't seem to be doing either. Though both would be ideal.

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Utopia
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Message 25 of 300 (367123)
11-30-2006 1:50 PM
Reply to: Message 14 by arachnophilia
11-30-2006 4:15 AM


quote:
i not only fail to see the supposed difference between humans and other animals, i also think most people are generally dumber than my cats
LOL. I agree! I have two cats and their behavior is many times more mature than that of the typical person I encounter. Especially people in groups. We do seem to become dumber in direct proportion to the number of people in our "pack". Which leads me to a new controversial opinion...
People who hate cats feel threatened by them because they don't trust the feline's independent mind. I think it's because they themselves don't know or understand how to think independently.
Greg P.

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ekman
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Message 26 of 300 (367124)
11-30-2006 1:54 PM
Reply to: Message 23 by tudwell
11-30-2006 12:07 PM


Re: Bring back capital punishment
quote:
I guess the real question is should prisons be meant for punishment or rehabilitation?
Might depend on the particular crime, for example there's not much chance Ted Bundy or Gacy could have been rehabilitated. Many crimes of opportunity are the end result of a complex alignment of factors, and might be good targets for actual rehabilitation.

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Utopia
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Message 27 of 300 (367129)
11-30-2006 2:01 PM
Reply to: Message 18 by Hyroglyphx
11-30-2006 11:35 AM


Re: If you wanted controversy, controversy so you shall have
quote:
I couldn't help but notice this one. You might be the only person on the planet that believes this. So, what kind of evidence exists to support such a lofty assertion?
To be honest I haven't really researched this to any great length but there are the "facts" and conclusions I drew from them that led me to believe his eldest son did it.
1) Blood matching O.J.s was found at the scene: I'm no biologist so I could be wrong but wouldn't O.J.'s son's blood be very likely to match his?
2) O.J. acted very "guilty" in the wake of the murderers: If it's true that he really didn't do it, only someone very close to him would cause O.J. to act the way he did. The only person I can think he'd be inclined to protect would be a family member.
3) O.J.'s eldest children (not by Nicole) didn't like her at all: Speaks for itself and my provide motive
4) The glove didn't fit: It's more likely that the glove simply wasn't on his hand than that it shrunk and all that other jazz. Perhaps that glove fits his son's hand?
I'm not married to this opinion by any means. If we are going to discuss this much further I say go ahead and propose a new thread :-)
Greg P.

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Son Goku
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Message 28 of 300 (367141)
11-30-2006 2:31 PM
Reply to: Message 13 by arachnophilia
11-30-2006 4:08 AM


Maybe I'm reading you wrong...
crashfrog writes:
I think physics, chemistry, and mathematics are "fake" sciences in that they do not study the natural world, but rather, study simplified mathematical models about it.
arachnophilia writes:
or rather, religions. mathematicians readily admit it's a religious idea, based on the faith in their initial axioms.
Physics, Chemistry and Mathematics are fake sciences?
And possibly religious?
May I ask why and what exempts biology from this?
I know you explained this to me before crashfrog, but the discussion got kind of cut off half way.
Edited by Son Goku, : No reason given.

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arachnophilia
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Message 29 of 300 (367152)
11-30-2006 4:26 PM
Reply to: Message 28 by Son Goku
11-30-2006 2:31 PM


Re: Maybe I'm reading you wrong...
Physics, Chemistry and Mathematics are fake sciences?
And possibly religious?
May I ask why and what exempts biology from this?
biology studies the real world, not a theoretical model of it.


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Brian
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Message 30 of 300 (367154)
11-30-2006 4:40 PM
Reply to: Message 22 by Modulous
11-30-2006 12:04 PM


Re: Bring back capital punishment
Indeed - punishment shouldn't really mean 'free room and board in a place much nicer than where you live with free facilities and socialising opportunities.
My mate is a prison officer, and I am freequently lost for words at some of the things he tells me.
Being in the UK you will appreciate some of these beauties
It is a prisoner's right to see a doctor within 24 hours about any ailment. I know people who have had to wait about a fortnight to see a doc and they are law abiding citizens.
A dentist visits the prison EVERY day to see if anyone requires treatment! I know people who cannot even get registered with a dentist!
We have the smoking ban up here now and my mate cannot smoke inside the prison, but the cons can as it is deemed as their home. The prisoners take great joy at teasing the officers by sitting back in their cells puffing away on their ciggies.
Prison should be a punishment, you wouldn't think it. Not just that, some prison sentences are a freakin joke. The Americans may be a weird lot, but at least their prison sentences seem to fit the crimes.
Brian.

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