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kuresu
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Message 135 of 188 (385278)
02-14-2007 9:41 PM
Reply to: Message 134 by johnfolton
02-14-2007 9:17 PM


Re: This "dynamic-decay" theory (Evidence of the Flood)
the earth will shake such as it has not shaken since its beginning that genesis suggests in the beginning was the earth and heaven created(explains the earlier rapid magnetic reversals).
I hope you'll excuse me for explaining just how shaking predicts magentic reversals.
There is no reason to believe the earths fossils are not young however would not all these creatures need be created after this initial great shaking event before that great shaking event that scripture says happened before man was on the earth.
sorry, but this makes no sense. grammatically, even. we live through earthquakes all the time. hell, it was an earthquake that caused the indian ocean tsunami in 2004. I survived (being far inland in the US). unless you mean like a really, really powerful earthquake, more powerful than has ever been recorded or can even be possible w/o destroying the earth.

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kuresu
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Message 137 of 188 (385283)
02-14-2007 10:19 PM
Reply to: Message 136 by johnfolton
02-14-2007 9:59 PM


Re: This "dynamic-decay" theory (Evidence of the Flood)
what do you mean by rapid reversals?
here's a timeline of magnetic reversals going back 4 million years:
normal = today's polarity, ie magnetic north is with geographic north
reversed = opposite polarity, ie MN is with GS
chron = division of reversals, like era, period, and eon for geologic time scale. these are long lived (ie, 1 millionish years)
subchron = a short-lived (200,000 years) reversal occuring inside of another chron
Brunhes normal chron = 700,000 ya to present
Matayuma reversed chron = 2.5 mya to 700,000 ya
jaramillo normla subchron = 1 mya to .9 mya
olduvai normal subchron = 2 mya to 1.85ish mya
Gauss normal chron = 3.3 mya to 2.5 mya
Mammoth reversed subchron = 3.05 mya to 3 mya
Gilbert reversed chron = 4 mya* to 3.3 mya
*my graph stops at 4 mya, so I don't know how much older it is.
you'll note that even the short lived chrons in this graph are 200,000 years old.
also, these magnetic stripes form from lava flows. When igneous rock solidifies, any magnetic rocks trapped inside have their polarization frozen. This polarization cannot change unless the rock is completely melted again.
tell me, how the hell can a flood that lasted no more than a year change the polarity of the earth's polarity at least 7 times? how can the igneous rock cool quickly enough? (in the atlantic ocean, it takes hundreds upon thousands of years for igneous rock to cool appreciably). Never mind that, but how do you explain the formation of a huge chunk of the atlantic ocean in such a short time (seeing as how it's built out of what are essentially lava flows, and these flows outpour very slowly). At the same time, you're gonna have to explain how the pacific ocean shrunk by the same amount in a single year.
while, I might add, keeping noah alive, or else, bye-bye man.

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kuresu
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Message 139 of 188 (385294)
02-14-2007 11:22 PM
Reply to: Message 138 by johnfolton
02-14-2007 10:55 PM


Re: This "dynamic-decay" theory (Evidence of the Flood)
the rating is not just based off of current rates.
anyhow, the pacific has to shrink for the pacific to grow. the earth isn't getting bigger. besides, what do you think those trenches in the ocean are for?
the atlantic ocean doesn't grow due to hyrdaulics. why exactly the plates move is still somewhat of a question--we've hypothesis, but we do know that water doesn't play a big role (except for in causing melting to occur at lower temperatures deep in the fault lines). basically, the atlantic ocean is growing because the plates on both sides (at the far end from the ridge) are being sucked down. essentially, the atlantic is being pulled apart, not pushed apart. convection in the upper mantle might play a role in this, but as said, we're still a little uncertain as to how specifically the plates move.
you still really haven't answered my questions.
Its said only since Christ birth that the last reversal since the biblical flood. Thus your 6 reversals previous to the present reversal happened in approximately 3 thousand years
this doesn't gel with MAOR data. you want to squeeze 4 million years of geological history into 3,000 years? you do realize the consequences, right? this means that the reversals would happen on average of 430 years. never mind having miles upon miles of a widening expansion of the atlantic in such a short time. do you realize the heat invovled?
it doesn't gel with volcanic layers that have the magnetic reversals. you're asking for an insane amount of volcanic activity (considering that these chrons are determined by more than just a single layer at a single volcano--correlation is key, or else what you have is an anamoly) in 3,000 years. why is there no evidence of such in human history (in our collected stories, specifically. you'd think that with all this volcanic activity they'd notice and make mention of it).
anyhow, try answering my questions instead of invading.

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kuresu
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From: boulder, colorado
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Message 142 of 188 (385309)
02-15-2007 1:03 AM
Reply to: Message 141 by johnfolton
02-15-2007 12:19 AM


Re: This "dynamic-decay" theory (Evidence of the Flood)
when you actually begin to understand how tectonic processes work, come back. this post is pure gibberish.
once you find out just what the earth looks like under the crust, come back. this post is pure gibberish.
and once you realize that a 4.5 byo earth does not conflict with religion, come back.

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kuresu
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Posts: 2544
From: boulder, colorado
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Message 175 of 188 (385515)
02-15-2007 8:50 PM
Reply to: Message 174 by anglagard
02-15-2007 8:45 PM


Re: Shear Waves
the outer core, which should be mentioned, is an iron/nickel combination. w/o it, no magnetic field.

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