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simple  Inactive Member |
quote:Great, so you admit it. So, believe what you like.
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simple  Inactive Member |
Well, no I do not ignore his evidence but he ignored mine. Did he show that the creation, or resurrection was false? No. Did he even discuss it? No. Did he listen, when I said that the science forum was biased, selective in evidence it allowed, and too small a place to debate for me, with the tight little rules? No.
That poster seemed to want to get into a debate on his turf where he could not lose.
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jar Member (Idle past 422 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
These museums are science museums, but more importantly, as museums that reflect the added spiritual content. Not limited just to science. So far you have offered NO evidence that there is ANY Science at the Creationism Museum or any evidence why an empty tomb has any relevance to "Creationism museum opens in Alberta." You may assert that it is a science museum but unless you can offer some evidence it is simply irrelevant. Furthermore, the picture you posted is not even from the Alberta Museum but rather Ken Hamm's sideshow and carnival. So far you have simply run away from the evidence that the Universe is far older than 6000 years and presented totally irrelevant images from some other Creationist Amusement Park. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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molbiogirl Member (Idle past 2670 days) Posts: 1909 From: MO Joined: |
Did he show that the creation, or resurrection was false? OK. Let's start here then. Why don't you lay out "all evidences" that "creation" is true and we can get a discussion going.
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simple  Inactive Member |
quote: I agree. I think that sums it up real well. Now, what about creation would not be supernatural?? What about the makeup of a man would not include the supernatural?? All science is is an admission it cannot deal with more than the natural, so it is a pretty paltry little area of knowledge, in comparison to the big picture. It may not subject all the world, and all the universe, and all the past and all the future, and all of what man experiences to those limits. Nosiree. Not gonna happen.
quote: Ah, here you limit yourself to the confines of the natural again! The supernatural cannot be evidenced with only the natural, that is too limited for the job, by it's nature. On the other hand, the earth abounds with evidence for a God, and spirits, and supernatural, though the evidences are not of the paltry science of nature sort. It is high time to put that limited body of understanding firmly in it's little place.
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molbiogirl Member (Idle past 2670 days) Posts: 1909 From: MO Joined: |
the earth abounds with evidence for a God, and spirits, and supernatural Terrific!Can you give us an example of this "evidence"?
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molbiogirl Member (Idle past 2670 days) Posts: 1909 From: MO Joined: |
It is high time to put that limited body of understanding firmly in it's little place. Hey guys? I know it's tempting to hammer keys on the science thing but it's pretty plain he'll dodge any science questions. How about we press him to provide something other than his bare assertion that "evidence exists for a god"?
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simple  Inactive Member |
quote:4.5 years is not that old! (har har) What you think natural science can detect is interesting. How nice. quote: Well, OK, I see that you don't want to discuss the exhibits in the museums, but the concepts of creation/evolution in general. I guess I could do the same, and get into pre big bang stuff, or ask about where life came from, or maybe about the future of man, and etc. Guess the sky is the limit in this thread, and there are no bounds? I had thought that some admin, or some admin under an assumed identity, or someone, explained that threads should have a narrow focus. I simply, then picked an exhibit, and tried to discuss it. Apparently you feel you can call the shots, and expand as you feel inspired to do.
quote: Maybe you can address some of the facts of this thread. If we get a green light to go ballistic, and take off the gloves, and go 15 rounds, and have a free for all, why, maybe I can entertain the idea of taking you down a few pegs. Meanwhile, back on topic.
quote: List 2 known lies in the museum, so we can see what you mean. Edited by keys, : No reason given.
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AdminNosy Administrator Posts: 4754 From: Vancouver, BC, Canada Joined: |
Only in your last line did you do anything that might move the discussion forward.
List 2 known lies in the museum, so we can see what you mean. Your point about narrowness of focus should be remembered however. If a particular alleged lie is put forward by someone it may be best to take it to a thread of it's own to discuss if it is a lie or not. However, you seem to want to avoid discussing actual facts. If that is true then say so and don't waste peoples time. You may also be wise to drop the arrogant attitude. It is getting close enough to warrent a few hours of suspension to see if you can improve your manners. Note that arrogant and ignorant rhyme well.
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Admin Director Posts: 13040 From: EvC Forum Joined: Member Rating: 2.2 |
Hi Keys,
I see you're replying to posts in order, and soon you'll be reading my posts commenting about this thread. I hope you and everyone else will take them to heart. I'd hate to have to close this thread or suspend anyone. The goal of EvC Forum is to host discussions that actually make progress, and those who consistently make this goal difficult to achieve quickly gain the notice of moderators. The topic is creationism museums and what is appropriate in them, and closely related topics are probably fine, too.
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simple  Inactive Member |
quote: Objective usually means objects. Supernatural, and spiritual are not objects. No more than the pre big bang singularity was an object in real life. There is nothing at all irrational about not limiting our world view to just what we can pack in a box, put in a test tube, or see with our eyes, or natural instruments. On the contrary, to ignore all else is so irrational, it is ridiculous.
quote: What exacly is presented there, in what exhibit, that is "disproven"??
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molbiogirl Member (Idle past 2670 days) Posts: 1909 From: MO Joined: |
I simply, then picked an exhibit, and tried to discuss it. You mean "Look! A picture of an empty cave!"?
List 2 known lies in the museum, so we can see what you mean. keys. For the third time. Why don't you point to some "evidence" in the "museum" and discuss why you think it's correct?
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molbiogirl Member (Idle past 2670 days) Posts: 1909 From: MO Joined: |
the earth abounds with evidence for a God, and spirits, and supernatural keys. FYI Shifting the burden of proof The burden of proof is always on the person asserting something. Shifting the burden of proof, a special case of Argumentum ad Ignorantiam, is the fallacy of putting the burden of proof on the person who denies or questions the assertion. The source of the fallacy is the assumption that something is true unless proven otherwise. You have asserted that there is evidence of god.The burden of proof is on you. Perhaps something in the "museum" would prove god's existence, hm?
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simple  Inactive Member |
quote: Great, hear that folks? Take it somewhere else! No need to make vague claims of lying here.
quote:I'll take your word for it, thanks for the poetry. Edited by keys, : No reason given.
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simple  Inactive Member |
OK. Jesus rose from the dead, that is evidence, and was witnessed. Another example might be that many have seen ghosts and angels.
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