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Eilidh
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Message 1 of 77 (405096)
06-11-2007 8:11 AM


Hi, I was trying to post a "Hello" but the relevant thread wouldn't allow me to post there. So, could a mod move this for me please?
I'm Female, Scottish and am a Creationist. I just found this site a few minutes ago, and am looking forward to getting a little more free time to explore it.
Hope to learn a lot here.
Edited by Admin, : Change title.

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Eilidh
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Message 6 of 77 (405127)
06-11-2007 1:28 PM
Reply to: Message 5 by Phat
06-11-2007 12:04 PM


Re: Welcome Welcome Welcome
Hi all, thanks for the lovely welcome. I've not really had time to view a lot of the site, so don't want to say too much at the mo.
I'm afraid I am a "Young Earth" believer. I know that doesn't go down well with most people of today.
I truly believe everybody must make up their own mind and be allowed to believe what they wish. Whether it be Evolution, Intelligent design or even fairies if they want.
I was born into a Christian home, but was taught evolution at school, so I became rather confused over the years. There was a time I even wondered if there was a God.
Then I came into contact with a Mr John McKay from "Creation Research. He has became a good friend over the years and a special blessing in my life.
Thankfully I am now in a happy contented place (well, with my faith at least)
I guess that's enough for now.
Looking forward to getting to know you all.
Eilidh

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Eilidh
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Message 16 of 77 (405357)
06-12-2007 12:57 PM
Reply to: Message 15 by Doddy
06-11-2007 8:14 PM


Re: Welcome Welcome Welcome
Hi, Well, what a flood of questions. That's good, I like an active site.
Hmm, where to start? First let me say, although I'm no thicko, I'm no brilliant sholar either. However, I doubt if anything I had to say in defence of "Creationism" would hold any importance to any of you.
I believe in a young earth because it makes more sense to me than any of the explanations science has came up with.
I have watched debate after debate between Mr J McKay and some of the top scientist in the world. So far, non of them have held a candle to Mr McKay. I urge you to listen to a few of his discs.
I don't intend to get into anything confrontational, it's not my style. I'm happy with what I believe, and trust you are too.

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Eilidh
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Message 18 of 77 (405376)
06-12-2007 2:02 PM
Reply to: Message 17 by Jazzns
06-12-2007 1:55 PM


Re: Welcome Welcome Welcome
Thanks Jazzns, what a nice reply. I do indeed intend to stick around.

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Eilidh
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Message 23 of 77 (405477)
06-13-2007 4:41 AM
Reply to: Message 22 by NosyNed
06-12-2007 3:54 PM


Re: A place to start
Dr. Adequate:
You have said twice now, that Mr McKay's site is full of blunders.
Could you please write down the blunders you see, so that I can check them all out for myself.
I maybe should also tell you, that the same Mr McKay was a university lecturer of Evolution for many years, before coming to the conclusion that the evidence he was finding in the fossils, did not often tally up with the findings of the scientists.

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Eilidh
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Message 26 of 77 (405489)
06-13-2007 6:28 AM
Reply to: Message 25 by Doddy
06-13-2007 5:26 AM


Re: A place to start
Oh sorry, that will be my fault then. I thought it was the same thing.
I must read that part of his site, I've never really paid much interest into his past.

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Message 28 of 77 (405568)
06-13-2007 5:43 PM
Reply to: Message 27 by Dr Adequate
06-13-2007 5:18 PM


Re: John Mackay
First, may I say thank you for your reply. I can see you've put a lot of time and effort into it, so I also thank you for that.
I will now go and spend a few days digesting what you have to say.

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Message 35 of 77 (405831)
06-15-2007 5:30 AM
Reply to: Message 32 by bluegenes
06-14-2007 10:21 AM


Sheeeeesh, I don't half have an unfortunate way with words, do I? Sorry, about the candle statement. That's me all over, just jump in with two feet, about what I think.
Can I blame the Celtic in me?
Anyway, I'm only getting a few minutes each day on the net, so I have no answers for you, and probably I never will. As I stated, I have little understanding of science. I'm sure you would all wipe the floor with me.
However, I do wish to take time and go over the questions anyway.

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Eilidh
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Message 37 of 77 (405906)
06-15-2007 1:23 PM
Reply to: Message 36 by Straggler
06-15-2007 8:33 AM


Re: Any Chance
Oh yes, I can certainly ask him. I can't say he'll do it, but it's no problem to ask. I'll just go e-mail him right now.

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Eilidh
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Message 38 of 77 (405919)
06-15-2007 1:52 PM
Reply to: Message 37 by Eilidh
06-15-2007 1:23 PM


Re: Any Chance
That's the e-mail off. I don't know where in the world he is now though, so this may take a few weeks.
I think a debate with him and y'all would be really cool.

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Eilidh
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Message 41 of 77 (406309)
06-19-2007 4:15 AM
Reply to: Message 40 by Straggler
06-16-2007 3:46 PM


Re: Marvellous!
Hi, Got an e-mail back from John, (Posted Beneath)
Just tell them to put their money where their mouth is and put up someone to
debate so we can see publicly who is making the blunders. I will be in
UK/Scotland in October/November so we can do it then if they get in soon. Let me
know what happens and thanks for your concern. If there is any thing you want to
ask go for it.
In Christ
John Mackay
So, does anyone want to take up a LIVE challenge?

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Eilidh
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Message 42 of 77 (406310)
06-19-2007 4:16 AM
Reply to: Message 40 by Straggler
06-16-2007 3:46 PM


Re: Marvellous!
ooops, double post, sorry.
Edited by Eilidh, : No reason given.

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Eilidh
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Message 53 of 77 (406357)
06-19-2007 1:51 PM
Reply to: Message 52 by NosyNed
06-19-2007 1:39 PM


Re: Showmanship
Awwww, come on guys, be fair!!! I placed John in quite a position. He had no background knowledge as to what I was landing him into.
He works very hard and I worried before asking him, because I knew that he has very little spare time.
I did state on the thread, that I didn't know whether he would be willing to participate or not. Well, he wasn't!
Believe me, he's not the type to shirk off anything. So that's an end to it.
Sorry.

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