Adam was created on the 3rd day

Hi Nuggin,To see God would be to see Jesus. He is the image of God, and so to be made in the image of God is to be made in Jesus... as one body with many members.

Hi Cmetts,The book of Adam and Eve could be a false writing, but it could also be true with the possibility of corruption. What is already in the Bible should be held as the standard. I am not for certain about it, and only have read the first few chapters. You did ask about other early writings which is why I brought it up.To verse 4: This is more divided up by the subject rather than a time line. A narrative where God starts talking about the Garden and its location encompased by the sea. In mentioning the sea He backs up in time to when He created the sea, the purposes of it in "what would come of the MAN HE WOULD MAKE;" In context that means: the man He would make AFTER the sea. Adam was made after the sea but before the garden. That is all I wished to bring forth. The Bible is pretty clear that the garden was made on the third day, but this makes it for certain. Some believe the Garden was planted after the creation... God took the plants that He created on the third day and planted them in the Garden.

Greetings Mikael, This question has been addressed a number of times. Feel free to respond to what I have said in messages 13, 37, 73 and 119. Don't know where I have suggested that Man is animal, but both Man created on the third day and sixth are in God's likeness. This distinguishes them from animals. However, both man and animal are living souls. "Souls" is translated as "creature" in Gen 1:28. So when we see the sixth day man given rule over "every living creature that moves on the ground", and in fact the whole earth, this includes man created on the third day.The way the sixth day man rules over the earth, over everything that is in it including our old sinful self, is by being created in Christ Jesus. We reign with Him.Rom 6:12 Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.
Rom 6:13 Neither yield ye your members [as] instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members [as] instruments of righteousness unto God.
Rom 6:14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.Rev 5:10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.Rev 20:6 Blessed and holy [is] he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

Hi Mikael, Not so. If you read through, I have presented scriptural support throughout this thread. In message 13 I referenced Jeremiah and 1 Corinthians speaking of a first and second vessel, a first and last Adam. Agreed. This is good that you acknowledge that the habitation created in Genesis 2 is on the third day. However, later you suggest that Genesis 2 was after everything was created.Using the same logic of building the parts of the computer and then putting it together: In chapter 2, God creates man, then creates the garden... that is their order given. Then God places man in the garden, putting man in his "slot". Adam is then "set in motion" by dressing and keeping the garden.

Hi Ringo,My apologies for missing this response.Within the context of Corinthians, I believe the first Adam not only refers to Adam, but also to all of us. The first Adam is defined as being of the earth, and just as Adam we are all of the earth.It is the same with the last Adam. Yes the last Adam is Jesus, but also refers to everyone born of Him. Anyone born of the heavenly is the last Adam. And when is that new beginning? Why not "In the beginning" when God made man in His image? His image is Christ, who is of the heavenly. When God makes man in His image, He is making man of the heavenly as opposed to the earthly.

Well, the beginning and the end of the world. God declared the end from the beginning.Isa 46:10 Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times [the things] that are not [yet] done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:The making of man in the image of God in Genesis is prophetic, speaking of the time of Christ. Jesus is the image of God:Hbr 1:3 Who being the brightness of [his] glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;Genesis does not plainly say that the man created on the sixth day was earthly. No mention of man having anything to do with the earth in chapter 1. What may appear as a contradiction to you, does not to me.

Then what does "declaring the end from the beginning" mean to you? Just because the cattle and what not are earthly does not mean you can automatically assume man is also earthly. Even though they both occur on the sixth day, they are completely separate creations. The image of God is not earthly, but heavenly.

Genesis 1 is "the beginning", "from ancient times" is all inclusive. I don't think you can exclude Genesis 1 from that, saying there is no possibility of prophecy in it. Gen 1:10 And God called the dry [land] Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that [it was] good.
Gen 1:11 And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, [and] the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed [is] in itself, upon the earth: and it was so."it was good" indicates that this is a completion of one part of creation. On the same day God picks up with the creation of something else, the vegetation. You can't say that the creation of land and sea are the same creation as the vegetation.Same day, different creations.Gen 1:25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that [it was] good.
Gen 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.Same situation. You can't say that the creation of animals is the same creation as man.Same day, different creations. Not in the same breath. 1Cr 15:44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
1Cr 15:45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam [was made] a quickening spirit.
1Cr 15:46 Howbeit that [was] not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.
1Cr 15:47 The first man [is] of the earth, earthy: the second man [is] the Lord from heaven.
1Cr 15:48 As [is] the earthy, such [are] they also that are earthy: and as [is] the heavenly, such [are] they also that are heavenly.
1Cr 15:49 And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.God is heavenlyimage of heavenly = image of Godimage of God is heavenly.

You could say it was all one creation, but God created both heavenly things and earthly things. You are skipping over some points in the text. Namely that the natural (earthly) man dies, and is raised a spiritual man. It is the spiritual man that is made in God's image.

1Cr 15:42 So also [is] the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:
1Cr 15:43 It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:
1Cr 15:44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
1Cr 15:45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam [was made] a quickening spirit.
1Cr 15:46 Howbeit that [was] not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.
1Cr 15:47 The first man [is] of the earth, earthy: the second man [is] the Lord from heaven.
1Cr 15:48 As [is] the earthy, such [are] they also that are earthy: and as [is] the heavenly, such [are] they also that are heavenly.
1Cr 15:49 And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.

Ringo,We just got done talking about how the creation is all one creation... It is the same with the Bible, it is all one text.Just as plants, animals, people give more definition or character to a bare landscape, Corinthians gives more definition to Genesis.Genesis stands on its own just as the dry ground stands on its own, is solid. So Corinthians does not undo what Genesis says, but better defines it to give it a correct interpretation. Corinthians speaks that "it is written" of two creations of Adam, which I am showing that Genesis does in fact speak of.2Ti 3:16 All scripture [is] given by inspiration of God, and [is] profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

If you take a look at my opening post, there is no other reference other than Genesis. God did in fact show it to me originally using just Genesis, and later Corinthians came in as further evidence.Seeing it in Genesis is what opened up my understanding to other scriptures, not the other way around. I can see it using just Genesis, but I cannot make you see it unless God shows it to you.I have done my best. Your part requires faith, first assuming inerrancy... inerrant until proven errant.

I say it with all humility. God shows what He wants to show to who He wants to show it. It is of no merit of my own.

Like I said, I have done my best. No mention is about equivilant to the bare earth. It stands on its own... a no mention is not a contradiction.Enjoyed the discussion Ringo. I am not running away, but will turn to Joseph before I forget.

Greetings Joseph, I agree. Creation being the separating out and forming of all things that proceeded forth from God. Including time and space. But why would God create something in a "static" form, when the conditions for it have not been met? It makes more sense to set the table and then bring in the guests. Why have the guests sitting at the table "static" while it is yet being set? The vegetation sprouting does depend on a moist ground which is accomplished through the rains. You say nothing grew, when clearly things grew on day 3 in Genesis 1. Man requires everything up until the vegetation. Fish, birds, animals, are not required for man to exist, but are "helpers" as indicated in Genesis 2. In Genesis 1, the time of appearing is when the entity is created. God looks at what He creates and "sees that it is good". Interesting thought, but no, that doesn't really make sense for me, considering that it doesn't with the vegetation either. I agree that the days are not 24 hour, but perhaps a thousand years or more. The cosmic day did not change to an earthly day on day 4 in the middle of the creation. Adam was the first human, and there were no prototypes before him. His earthly days began being counted in the day he ate from the tree of knowledge.