Misc. side comments to things in other topics

The "The Nature of Mutations II" topic is already going astray, with side comments concerning Peter Borger. And I wanted to add something to this diversion, but it would be wrong to further contribute to the topics decay - so I started this "Free For All" topic.From a schrafinator comment, at the above mention topic.

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In my fantasy world, it really bugged him that I, an illogical, intellectually inferior woman, was able to completely take him to task when he tried to use a paper on equine limb evolution as support of his ideas. He had no idea what the paper was talking about and just mined a completely out of context quote from it.

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He never admitted anything, but came as close as I ever saw him come to conceding.

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I know it's probably only a fantasy, however.

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A phrase I once heard used in a "Bloom County" comic - "Women, and their nutty hormones".Moose

Salty, from the same topic as cited in message 1, said:

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It is too bad that this forum finds it necessary to engage in personal attacks. I know from personal experience how fruitless that can be. It is the price one pays for straying from atheistic purposeless Darwinism. I don't blame Borgher for not returning. Now I am sure someone will go after me. Salty

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I focus in on the "atheistic purposeless Darwinism" phrase.Salty, I presume your alternative is the "theistic purposeful anti-Darwinism"? Or perhaps it would be better phrased as the "anti-Darwinian purposeful theism"?Either way, it seems that your religious and/or philosophical beliefs are driving your scientific inclinations.Moose

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In my fantasy world, it really bugged him that I, an illogical, intellectually inferior woman...

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Women, and their nutty hormones.

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I'm assuming you missed this, in the opening message of this topic.Moose

What about Moose?The Mooseps: re:http://EvC Forum: millions of years? -->EvC Forum: millions of years?

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The percent identity in DNA sequence probably has nothing to do with the phenotypic differences between chimps and humans. It most probably simply reflects the accumulation of neutral loci that have arisen since our separation about 6 million years ago. salty

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Salty trying to get banned???Also represented in the topic string in question, is the very poor control of keeping things on topic.Also, Terry and Buz both seem to be under the sway of "Morton's Demon", but with Terry, the demon's control seems to be pretty much absolute. Not so for the Buzter.Moose

From http://EvC Forum: Human Races -->EvC Forum: Human Races, where the Frog said:

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On the other hand, all observers can agree at what point water becomes ice. That's at zero degrees Celsius.

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But only at standard pressure. At higher pressures the freezing point goes down.He also said (in reply to "Different degrees of temperature blend into one another"):

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Ludicrous. Temperature in degrees is a discreet property. 50 degrees doesn't "blend" into 51 or 49 degrees.

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I won't pick on this one too hard, but temperature gradients are real.Lastly, from http://EvC Forum: Human Races -->EvC Forum: Human Races, the Frog said:

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Everybody agrees on exactly how much heat energy a degree of temperature represents.

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Heat content is not (at least directly) measured in temperature units. In metric, energy is measured in Joules, while temperature is measured in Kelvins (or degrees Celsius). The same amount of heat (energy) will NOT equally change the temperature of equal masses of two different substances.I'll now stand by, for someone to nit-pick me.Mooseps: Not that this has any apparent relationship to the topic there.

Message 1 of a topic at Terry's Talk Origins:

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Convinced as I am that everything has a genetic basis, I take this opportunity to present my conviction that political liberalism and the Darwinian fairy tale are highly correlated. Just as nearly all white cats are deaf, so I propose that nearly all Darwinians are political liberals. This has altready been established for university professors and I am now generalizing to include Darwinians everywhere one finds them, especially on internet forums such as EvC, FringeSciences and "Brainstorms" Even this forum is crawling with them. Can you imagine Winston Churchill or Ronald Reagan or Tony Blair or our own George Walker Bush as a Darwinian? For the life of me I cannot.

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One of my favorite political commentators is Ann Coulter, whom I would recommend as the succesor to Donald Rumsfeld should he resign. She is the ultimate conservative. In her current column she has described liberals as follows:

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"Liberals are clueless, amoral sexual degenerates, communists and pacifists."

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I cannot imagine a more fitting description of your average garden variety Darwinian. Can anyone?

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Mind boggling.MooseAdded by edit: By the way, I got the boot there for saying "Ban me if you wish, but I think that GWB was voted in by the coalition of the ignorant, the stupid, and the greedy."So we got the "clueless, amoral sexual degenerates, communists and pacifists" versus "the ignorant, the stupid, and the greedy".This message has been edited by minnemooseus, 12-26-2004 22:22 AM

I saved a copy of the thing, in case it otherwise disappears.Opening line in Salty's message 5 (addressed to Terry):

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Terry
The reason this forum succeeds is because you are willing to tolerate all kinds of different fixed and immutable perspectives which include direct attacks on your own world view.

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You couldn't even do parody of this stuff - It's already to wierd.I was offering Salty the respect of using his preferred name, John A. Davison, but I've decided he's not worthy of such.Mooseps: I note topics seem to be disappearing elsewhere. Hope nothing fatal is happening.

I had a photograph of my cat "Hiss" as my avatar.I changed it to a black box November 3rd, and also changed my location to "South Canada".Flaming liberal Moose

Oops, it's the Vikings that are going to lose today. It seems that the Packers lost last week.Moose

Re: The Moss moonPer the newpaper - It seems that it's a Green Bay fan tradition to moon the opposing teams departing bus, after a Packer victory. Randy just returned the gesture. Seems better than some goofy end zone dance.Colts coach (and former Vikings assistant coach) Tony Dungie (sp?) said he thought Moss's gesture was funny.A Packer fan co-worker (years ago in Nevada) told me "Randy Moss is a punk". My reply was "You just wish he was your teams punk", to which he had to agree.We'll have to see if he's a gimpy punk today.Moose

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He gets my endorsement. Heck, I'd rather have him as President.MooseEdit - changed IDThis message has been edited by Adminnemooseus, 01-19-2005 11:47 AM

For lack of a better place to discus this, here it is.Philip, from here: My impression is that Behe is very close to being a mainstream evolutionist, old Earth and all.MooseEdit: Changed IDThis message has been edited by minnemooseus, 06-27-2005 12:43 PM

From here: Also on that google.co.uk search (currently 3rd) is http://www.perfect.co.uk/2005/01/ignorant-bigotsThat cite/site in turn leads to Googlejuice Request :: ivorysky, which contains: Not as good as the old "weapons of mass destruction" google search, but still...Moose

Re: hereIn the not to distant past, someone ran a team of poodles in the John Beargrease sled dog race, here in northern Minnesota. Further research finds that it also has been done elsewhere. The top link from the "John Beargrease" + poodle searchPhoto link from the previous cite:
http://home.gci.net/~poodlesleddog/Moose