Misc. side comments to things in other topics

I am partly responsible for dragging the thread off topic. I was making an effort to draw salty ON topic through a variety of methods (unsuccessfully). As he tends to meander wildly in his conversations he brought up Borger's banning and I made a comment that I thought Borger should not have been banned i.e. agreed with salty. The intent was not to get into a long discussion on Peter Borger.I tried a lot of different approaches to salty to get him to make a real attempt at answering questions. The one method that universally fails is if he feels slighted. What he considers insult is also rather unpredictable...schrafinators posts somehow angered salty for no apparent reason. However, nothing else I have tried seems to be getting anywhere either...anybody else see anything I have missed..for those of you who have tuned in?I mean, if the guy is going to hang around here..the least we could do is try to get him to participate on topic in threads so that we don't end up with every thread he enters hopelessly derailed.cheers,
M

Besides salty's thinly veiled religious fundamentalism, I would focus more on Darwinsim and Darwinian which he uses frequently...to this day he has never explained what he means by either.

Salty writes

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Percipient. Evolution was the transformation of life forms from one to the next. Darwinism is an hypothesis which claims to provide the mechanism by which such transformations took place. It is probably the most tested hypothesis in the history of science. It has never been demonstrated. Nevertheless, the Darwinians maintain that it is going on all around us even as I respond to your post. Does this help explain the difference? salty

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Ok Percy..you are correct...he did give his (comical) definition of Darwinism...and Evolution...from the quote it appears he equates the two. However, he still has not defined Darwinian. At other times he has also claimed that he believes evolution has occurred but stopped at some undefined time...which is in conflict with his negative view of evolution from his above quote where he dismisses it outright.I am not surprised at salty's inconsistencies as he does not seem to be able to formulate or express his ideas on this site. However, given his rather combative nature, I am surprised that he is so unwilling to state his opinions when asked questions.Anyway, I'll keep trying to nudge him on topic and will not flame him....cheers,
M

Hmm..perhaps my intention was a bit vague. I am under no illusion that salty is capable of rational discussion since he has demonstrated for months on this board (and now at ISCD) that he cannot. However, in the past, a relentless flame war ensued, hopelessly derailing every single topic where he was posting.I am not expecting him to say anything substantial...but the topic of the thread has at least for the most part stayed somewhere in the neighborhood of Nature of Mutations. This was really my only intention with what I have been doing...I may have had a slight curiousity as to whether he could reply to a direct question with a direct answer but instead he is meandering all over the place, selectively answering, and claiming that dead people would agree with him.I agree that it is sickeningly repetitive to engage him in "discussion". On the other hand, I am not sure that banning him (if that is what you are hinting at) would work out as it would be seen as "evilutionist bias"...unless a creationist banned/suspended him.cheers,
M

I would have to concur..salty is one of the few people who posts where if he were to accidentally multiply duplicate his posts..I am not sure I would be able to tell given the similarity of his response to any question addressed to him..and many that are not.What I do not agree with is that he "clams up"...if he were clamming up he would not be such an annoyance.

Has he ever dealt with a substantive issue? I mean other than claiming Grasse would agree with him only to have Mr. Pamboli show that Grasse in fact contradicts most of what salty says

Here you go more seriously..I could not get a tree from a paper where I have free access

I don't know what your experiences are on other forums but another advantage of this place is that the moderators don't typically delete the posts even if they are posts that result in someones suspension or banning.

Whatever happened to nos482?

Actually I asked because I thought he had been banned which would mean an update to the list of suspensions you have been posting..but I was mistaken...maybe he found Wordswordman somewhere else on the net to fight with

Hi defender,
Ich bin Amerikaner..aber meine Frau kommt aus Mnchen und wir wohnen in Deutschland. Aber fast jeder Deutscher kann gut Englisch sprechen.
Nach 4 jahre finde ich Deutsch immer noch wirklich schwerig tschuss
M

If I put the bayonet down those damn ducklings will start following me around again!

Ich war letztes jahr in Neuseeland..es ist wunderschoen! Warum studieren Sie Deutsch? Fur spass oder wegen arbeit?...wenn Sie nur 7 Monaten studieren haben, dann haben Sie ein echte talent mit Fremdsprachen! ...Wenn Sie etwas nicht richtig schrieben wurden..Ich werde vieleicht nicht merken...mein schriftliches Deutsch ist ganz schleckt.

Is that one of those "oh you are from New York? Do you know a guy name Smith? I think his first name is Tom..or Frank or something?" ....by the end of today everyone will be convinced I am German Ahora voy a escribir solo en Espanol...asi la gente no me confunden con los Alemanes...especialmente los Alemanes que juegan con patos...

Hi John..sorry for being sarcastic...I try not to get confused with the Germans..I'm not that uptight yet ...glad my wife did not read this In what sport is he famous? There is a tendency in the media to greatly exaggerate the merits of minor sports figures and celebrities in Germany so it is hard for me to tell who is actually well known or who was a flash in the pan...