Pit bulls suck� Is it in their genes?

1. Low coat maintenance. They have very short sleek coats. Shedding is minimal. They don't need brushing, unless you've been in tick country, and you can bathe them yourself; NO PROFESSIONAL GROOMING BILLS.2. Loyal. Extremely loyal dogs: aside from the emotional satisfaction this gives the owner, Pits have less of a tendency to wander or run away.3. Affectionate. They want to cuddle all the time. They want to sleep right next to you in bed. [CAUTION: one thing that can turn a Pit squirrilly is keeping it in the yard and giving it only minimal human contact. Some breeds do fine like this, but Pits react like emotionally abused children, and become anti-social and unpredictable.]4. Stamina. These dogs can go on ten mile hikes, camp out, and hike back the next day. They can run with you when you're on a bicycle. It's really hard to tire a Pit out, so if you want a dog for a companion on outdoor activities, even mountain biking, this is a good breed to consider.5. All Weather Dogs. Pits don't tend to overheat or catch chills like dogs bred for a certain climate.6. Not Voracious. You can usually free-feed a Pit, and not have a "dinner time," because they won't overeat like some breeds when given unlimited food. They also are easy to train to leave your food alone.7. Trainable. Pits are active puppies, so their training sometimes gets off to a slow start, but by the end of their second year, they are very obedient dogs. When you think about it, a fighting dog that will listen to its owner, and stop fighting when told to, even in the high heat of battle, is a very obedient dog.8. Good Average Size. You can expect a female pit to be 40-60 lbs, and a male to be 50-70. This is a good solid "big" dog, not a little yappy dog, without being enormous.9. Not Barkers. Although your Pit will defend you if you are attacked, and will defend your home, they don't bark at every car that goes by, or every set of footsteps in the hallway. They are one of few large breeds that make good apartment dogs.....Note: I stole this from some other forum

I don't think that is true. As it has been said, Pitbulls were bread to be NOT aggressive towards humans.

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It is reported on temperament tests conducted by the American Temperament Test Society that Pit Bulls had a passing rate of 82% or better -- compared to only 77% of the general dog population.

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These temperament tests consist of putting a dog through a series of unexpected situations, some involving strangers.

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Any signs of unprovoked aggression or panic in these situations result in failure of the test. The achievement of Pit Bulls in this study disproves that they are inherently aggressive to people.

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Pit Bulls are one of the most stable people-friendly dogs in existence. The National Canine Temperament Testing Association tested 122 breeds, and Pit Bulls placed the 4th highest with a 95% passing rate!

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Pitbulls have a bad reputation but are not bad dogs. Even if I believed that 'fact', I would say that this is because of the types of people who own pitbulls and the way that they use them, not because pitbulls are inherently viscious or are bad dogs.

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"Pit Bulls attack more people than any other breed." Bite statistics actually show otherwise. More popular breeds that are generally considered to be "nice dogs" top the majority of lists. It may seem to the general public who is constantly bombarded with disturbing reports on Pit Bull attacks that this is the only breed that harms humans with any great regularity. However, the fact remains that Pit Bulls are hot news items. Dogs of all breeds and mixes bite and attack people all the time, but it is mainly the Pit Bull bites that get sensationalized. A report about the local Golden Retriever that attacks and maims a child isn't considered newsworthy. No one wants to believe that any dogs--even the fuzzy, cute, popular ones--are capable of biting. It's much easier to blow up and sensationalize a story about a vicious dog when it's a member of a breed who's reputation preceeds it. Pit Bulls are already considered the demons. All the reporters have to do is stand in front of the camera, look horrified, and say, "A Pit Bull did it".

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Petey, the faithful dog on the TV show, The Little Rascals, was a Pit Bull. He spent countless hours with children day after day and never hurt anyone. He was one of the most intelligent Hollywood dogs of all time.

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You're mad because a pitbull attacked your dog. If it was a different breed, would you advocate wiping out that breed? Probably not, because of the way pitbulls are portrayed and the 'facts' that you have. Pitbulls aren't bad, they've gotten a bad rap.

From your link:

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Breeds Involved
Pit Bull and Pit-bull-type dogs (21%), Mixed breed dogs (16%), Rottweilers (13%), German Shepherd Dogs (9%), Wolf Dogs (5%),
Siberian Huskies (5%), Malamutes (4%), Great Danes (3%),
St. Bernards (3%), Chow Chows (3%), Doberman Pinschers (3%),
other breeds & non-specified breeds (15%).

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Whats a "Pit-bull type" dog? And how easy is it for a mixed breed to be mislabeled as a Pitbull because it attacked someone?

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THE STATISTICS - FATAL DOG ATTACKS IN THE U.S. FROM 1965 - 2001 *

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The study covers 431 documented human fatalities from a dog attack.

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So at 21%, we're talking 90 fatalities from Pitbulls (and pitbull types) documented from 1965 - 2001. No reason to ban the breed.

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1. Low coat maintenance. They have very short sleek coats. Shedding is minimal. They don't need brushing, unless you've been in tick country, and you can bathe them yourself; NO PROFESSIONAL GROOMING BILLS.
2. Loyal. Extremely loyal dogs: aside from the emotional satisfaction this gives the owner, Pits have less of a tendency to wander or run away.

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3. Affectionate. They want to cuddle all the time. They want to sleep right next to you in bed. [CAUTION: one thing that can turn a Pit squirrilly is keeping it in the yard and giving it only minimal human contact. Some breeds do fine like this, but Pits react like emotionally abused children, and become anti-social and unpredictable.]

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4. Stamina. These dogs can go on ten mile hikes, camp out, and hike back the next day. They can run with you when you're on a bicycle. It's really hard to tire a Pit out, so if you want a dog for a companion on outdoor activities, even mountain biking, this is a good breed to consider.

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5. All Weather Dogs. Pits don't tend to overheat or catch chills like dogs bred for a certain climate.

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6. Not Voracious. You can usually free-feed a Pit, and not have a "dinner time," because they won't overeat like some breeds when given unlimited food. They also are easy to train to leave your food alone.

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7. Trainable. Pits are active puppies, so their training sometimes gets off to a slow start, but by the end of their second year, they are very obedient dogs. When you think about it, a fighting dog that will listen to its owner, and stop fighting when told to, even in the high heat of battle, is a very obedient dog.

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8. Good Average Size. You can expect a female pit to be 40-60 lbs, and a male to be 50-70. This is a good solid "big" dog, not a little yappy dog, without being enormous.

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9. Not Barkers. Although your Pit will defend you if you are attacked, and will defend your home, they don't bark at every car that goes by, or every set of footsteps in the hallway. They are one of few large breeds that make good apartment dogs.

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Note: I stole this from some other forum

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They are just good dogs all around. Their violence comes from who/how they are raised and combined with news sensationalism in that ANY dog that attacks a person will be labelled a "Pit Bull", they just have a bad reputaion but are not bad dogs. You should take a ride through East St. Louis some time. All the pit bulls there are owned by ghetto-assed thugs.One of my best friends (not from E.Saint), who is an excellent dog owner, has a pit bull. She is the sweetest dog I have ever met. She's very tame and docile and just an all around good dog.

I'm not convinced that pit bulls have some violence gene that has to be trained to be turned off, otherwise they're homocidal maniacs. I also don't really believe that any dogs can "snap" and go on a crazy attack spree. Some individuals maybe, but not a whole breed. Sure, that one dog wasn't a great dog, but that doesn't mean the whole breed is shot.

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I just ran into a mexican that was an idiot. My, what a great race.

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That doesn't fly either.... I just don't think that all pit bull's default state of mind is that of violence.Sure, they were bred to be good fighting dogs, but they have to be trained to fight. You don't just get a pit bull pup and automatically have a fighting dog.

Because keeping them is the default, how do we go about losing them?Plus, people like pit bulls and want to have them, which is reason enough.Therein lies the problem. We can't go around killing them all and people are going to continue to breed them. If people continued to breed the faulty-kneed labor horses because they just like to have something to feed a carrot too, how are you going to get rid of them?

Fuck that.That's too nazi for my taste. Its like gun control. People will ask for reasons that justify owning a gun. The only reason that I need is that I want to have one.Now, when it gets to a point where it becomes a danger to society, I could justify outlawing it.I don't think we are "there" yet with pitbulls. Rocket launchers? sure.

It was analogous to people having to justify owning something when the only reason they need is that they want to.You said that you disagree that wanting a pit bull is reaon enough to have one. I think its bullshit that you have to justify having something. Well, even inalieable rights are limited on that extent. You know, like you can't yell "Fire!" in a crowded theater if there is't one. I see. I just don't think that they are too far gone. I don't even think they are bad. False delimma. Dog fighters are breaking the law.

This is true.I don't think Pit Bulls are bad firstly because of my personal experiences. I've met many damn good pit bulls and have not met very many bad ones. I'll admit that mysample size is not that large.I also think that the media gives them a worse rap. If a mutt attacks a kid, everyone starts yelling "pit bull!".Plus, the kinds of people that are getting pitbulls are not good people so they are making the breed seem worse than it actually is.What makes you think they are so bad?

So you honestly believe that banning the breed and spading the bitches is the answer?It just seems so 'genocide' to me.I don't think that that is the answer to the problem. The breed, in and of itself, is worth salvaging. Pit Bulls are not bad dogs, they aren't going to "snap", and they have a bad rap.Lets not over-react.

you say this like 'species' means something important to me.Species is a human convention.Are dogs and wolves the same species? They can interbreed, but their Latin name is different.No need to reply to that, it is off topic. I just wanted to clarify my presumptions so you can stop doing it for me You are, remember? Pit Bulls are not bad enough to warrant their genocide.What makes you think that they are? I'm going to go ahead and let you win this one by Goodwin's Law (
(which reminds me of Gaydolf Titler anyone see The Oscars?)

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But let the lurkers recall that YOU are the nazi Never can, never will. Pussy. That's also clear evidence that your wrong. Ditto.