A Designer Consistent with the Physical Evidence

Buzsaw writes:

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The kaleidoscope was designed and manufactured/created in such a manner to produce the desired effect of the designer. The same goes with the snowflakes. All are said to be different. So far as we know, like the fingerprint, no two match perfectly. Imo, only by intelligent design could this be possible.

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We're back to the question nobody ever answers!Is there anything that happens on its own or is god required for everything?

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Rrhain

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Thank you for your submission to Science. Your paper was reviewed by a jury of seventh graders so that they could look for balance and to allow them to make up their own minds. We are sorry to say that they found your paper "bogus," specifically describing the section on the laboratory work "boring." We regret that we will be unable to publish your work at this time.

Buzsaw responds to me:

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We're back to the question nobody ever answers!

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Is there anything that happens on its own or is god required for everything?

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God created one man from the dust. Then he created one woman from the rib of man and ?. From there he advocated how man should live. Free will pretty much determined where man would go from there. Nevertheless, divine providence worked to insure the survival and welfare of the human race and the planet at large.

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And thus, Buzsaw joins the ranks of avoiding the question. It's a simple either/or question, but nowhere in there do you find a specific answer. Let's try again, shall we?Is there anything that happens on its own or is god required for everything?"Yes, there are things that happen on their own.""No, all things require god."Which is it?

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Rrhain

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Thank you for your submission to Science. Your paper was reviewed by a jury of seventh graders so that they could look for balance and to allow them to make up their own minds. We are sorry to say that they found your paper "bogus," specifically describing the section on the laboratory work "boring." We regret that we will be unable to publish your work at this time.

Buzsaw responds to me:

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We are not all created by God; none of us alive today or yesterday or last year or last month, last century, last millennium etc have been created by God; not even Noah.

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One man, Adam, was created by God. All others have procreated from Adam without God designing or creating each. God's creative work on humans and the species ended on day six of Genesis one. Thus the sabbath rest as God rested on the seventh day.

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So close, and yet still nothing concrete. I understand the reticence: Nobody wants to go on the record because that would require living with the consequences of that claim. Please, Buzsaw, humor me. Say it directly.Do you claim that there are things that happen on their own or do you insist that god is required for everything?You can explicate your answer after you actually give your answer. You certainly are hinting that you are saying that there are things that can happen on their own, but I need you to say it directly and simply without embellishment.Is there anything that happens on its own or is god required for everything?

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Rrhain

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Thank you for your submission to Science. Your paper was reviewed by a jury of seventh graders so that they could look for balance and to allow them to make up their own minds. We are sorry to say that they found your paper "bogus," specifically describing the section on the laboratory work "boring." We regret that we will be unable to publish your work at this time.

Buzsaw responds to me:

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I'm damned if I respond and damned if I don't.

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Not at all. If you respond, then we can have a discussion about the consequences of your claim. Otherwise, we are left to guess at what you're actually claiming and then you get to be disingenuous and whine, "I never said that!" That's why I need you to say it directly and simply. Go ahead and provide your justification of your answer, but you have to give your answer first.

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Rrhain

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Thank you for your submission to Science. Your paper was reviewed by a jury of seventh graders so that they could look for balance and to allow them to make up their own minds. We are sorry to say that they found your paper "bogus," specifically describing the section on the laboratory work "boring." We regret that we will be unable to publish your work at this time.