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Author Topic:   A Designer Consistent with the Physical Evidence
Michamus
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Message 205 of 327 (506053)
04-22-2009 4:28 AM
Reply to: Message 203 by Bio-molecularTony
04-21-2009 11:00 PM


Re: All "life" can't exist unless it is made, constructed, assembled.
Bio-molecularTony writes:
All "life" can't exist unless it is made, constructed, assembled. There needs to be some smart programming instructions with enough intelligence built into the code, to automatically self-assemble with the use of bio-machinery already there waiting for instructions.
Do you know what is wrong with this argument? Do you realize why no one takes this claim seriously? Let me explain it to you.
You are stating a hypothesis as fact, without providing any facts to substantiate it.
I will give you an example:
Premise A: "Objects fall toward the ground when there is nothing to suspend them"
Premise B: "We know Premise A to be true because we can see objects fall to the ground."
Premise C: "We know Premise A & B to be true because we have repeatedly tested them, with many other individuals independently testing them."
Conclusion: Objects fall toward the ground when there is nothing to suspend them.
Your argument stops at Premise A. This is evident as not once do you use the words (or any combination thereof of similar meaning) "we know this because" with facts following them.
I would posit the reason that you go no further than Premise A is due mainly to your lack of any substantiating evidence whatsoever for your claim.

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Michamus
Member (Idle past 5187 days)
Posts: 230
From: Ft Hood, TX
Joined: 03-16-2009


Message 209 of 327 (506083)
04-22-2009 9:24 AM
Reply to: Message 207 by Bio-molecularTony
04-22-2009 5:58 AM


Re: The Hall of SHAME
Bio-molecularTony writes:
There is this thing called common knowledge
It has become apparent that your intention here is not to discuss knowledge at all. It isn't to describe facts, and how they interact with your interpretation of reality. It isn't to establish some new theory that can be utilized in the advancement of human knowledge and understanding.
No, it has become quite obvious that your intention here is to hammer the same unsubstantiated statement, over, and over, until everyone stops replying to you. At which point you will have the half empty reassurance that you were "right" and they were "wrong".
Until you realize that your are not checking your "common knowledge" to actual knowledge, you will go no where. Remember, it is the one who provides evidence against "common knowledge", that is typically destroyed by the ones who possess the "common knowledge".
Edited by Michamus, : Minor typo.

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Michamus
Member (Idle past 5187 days)
Posts: 230
From: Ft Hood, TX
Joined: 03-16-2009


Message 211 of 327 (506093)
04-22-2009 12:19 PM
Reply to: Message 210 by DevilsAdvocate
04-22-2009 12:07 PM


Re: The Hall of SHAME
DevilsAdvocate writes:
BTW, Michemus, good luck to you in Afghanistan and wish the best for you, your family and your fellow soldiers in arms.
Thank you.

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Michamus
Member (Idle past 5187 days)
Posts: 230
From: Ft Hood, TX
Joined: 03-16-2009


Message 225 of 327 (506252)
04-24-2009 11:56 AM
Reply to: Message 221 by Bio-molecularTony
04-24-2009 6:28 AM


Re: common knowledge VS common igorance
Bio-molecularTony writes:
Life can only be defined as a complete system. If your endowed with the minimum level of parts to achieved a automated self-replicating system then you can qualify to be labelled by man as a "living system".
Alright, that's your Premise A... now what's the substantiating evidence?
Bio-molecularTony writes:
"Life" is now quite vague today. Calling a machine alive or not alive is mixing mythical ignorance with modern biology. If you guys would just put down your "life is some kind of black magic" religious Mythical ideas you would see the true reality of this thing we call existence.
Alright, another Premise A... now what's the substantiating evidence?
Bio-molecularTony writes:
Complete automated systems (Life) can not arise from non-atomically, non-complex, non-complete systems. That video is crap mythical ignorance.
Alright another Premise A... now what's the substantiating evidence?

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