Register | Sign In


Understanding through Discussion


EvC Forum active members: 65 (9164 total)
3 online now:
Newest Member: ChatGPT
Post Volume: Total: 916,913 Year: 4,170/9,624 Month: 1,041/974 Week: 368/286 Day: 11/13 Hour: 0/0


Thread  Details

Email This Thread
Newer Topic | Older Topic
  
Author Topic:   A Designer Consistent with the Physical Evidence
hari
Junior Member (Idle past 5519 days)
Posts: 15
From: Harmandar
Joined: 03-10-2009


Message 71 of 327 (502168)
03-10-2009 6:56 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Blue Jay
09-01-2008 10:17 AM


God in a box?
I would like to discuss the Intelligent Designer who would be consistent with the physical evidence available
1. Evolution should not be discounted as a design option. A very effective way to develop robot control software is to have it learn from experience.
2. Everything about our world, from the lay of the land to the layout of the stars and our organs, kind of screams out that it evolved.
3. If the Intelligent Designer = God then He is timeless, unbowed by space-time, caring not a jot for the passing of 13.7 million years.
So, for instance, God created a zillion universes with differing laws and starting conditions, and watched to see which ones evolved into something interesting, with beings in His own image. He chose this particular plan because we will never be able to prove that we and our universe were designed, and so can only believe in Him by faith alone - God likes faith.
power=omnipotent - we can’t make universes yet
intelligence>=competent - Darwin thought of it too
benevolence=? - way complicated
Does ID let God choose this intelligent design option, and if not, how come?

This message is a reply to:
 Message 1 by Blue Jay, posted 09-01-2008 10:17 AM Blue Jay has not replied

hari
Junior Member (Idle past 5519 days)
Posts: 15
From: Harmandar
Joined: 03-10-2009


Message 90 of 327 (502771)
03-13-2009 9:11 AM
Reply to: Message 79 by Taq
03-12-2009 3:34 PM


Re: Nested Hierarchy and the Amnesiac Designer
wrong source, sorry, see next post instead
Edited by hari, : No reason given.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 79 by Taq, posted 03-12-2009 3:34 PM Taq has not replied

hari
Junior Member (Idle past 5519 days)
Posts: 15
From: Harmandar
Joined: 03-10-2009


Message 91 of 327 (502774)
03-13-2009 9:18 AM
Reply to: Message 80 by grandfather raven
03-12-2009 3:51 PM


From your link
quote:
Dembski [an ID theorist] suggested that since (in the limit) as the wavelength of electromagnetic radiation tends to infinity the energy tends to zero, an unembodied intelligent agent could in principle transmit information (designs) to biological entities via an infinite-wavelength zero-energy signal. That sort of conjecture makes physicists of my acquaintance very edgy, invoking as it does . an unembodied agent acting on physical matter via a zero-energy (and therefore zero channel capacity) signal using unfocusable (because of its infinite wavelength) electromagnetic radiation, but that’s something to be worked out later .
. I am known to be an ID critic, and readers may therefore believe that Multiple Designers Theory is presented as a parody of ID. It is not.
lol, beautiful hoax. If signals from an intelligent designer raise concerns about personal privacy, your prayers are answered here
Aluminum Foil Deflector Beanie

Oh don't listen to me, I'm just a girl

This message is a reply to:
 Message 80 by grandfather raven, posted 03-12-2009 3:51 PM grandfather raven has not replied

Newer Topic | Older Topic
Jump to:


Copyright 2001-2023 by EvC Forum, All Rights Reserved

™ Version 4.2
Innovative software from Qwixotic © 2024