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Hyroglyphx
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Message 46 of 244 (556580)
04-20-2010 12:27 PM
Reply to: Message 8 by Faith
04-20-2010 1:25 AM


Absent God
I agree Buz. Freedom to practice your own religion isn't the same thing as having your religion officially recognized by an official body of the government
It's almost like maybe the government and religion should be separate. Oh, wait.... I'm curious why you think it is acceptable for the AF to except Christianity but not Wicca. It should either accept none or accept all, seems to me. And in the interest of this little document called the Constitution, I think the former makes more sense than the latter.
you and I know that the true God won't tolerate that for long.
Yes, because he's been working so many miracles in Myanmar, Darfur, Rwanda and Haiti. When I think of the hacking off of baby limbs, genocide, famine, pestilence, I just think God's not going to take that for long. Either that or I think maybe God is the cause, after reading the bible.

"Political correctness is tyranny with manners." -- Charlton Heston

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Hyroglyphx
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Message 47 of 244 (556585)
04-20-2010 12:41 PM
Reply to: Message 26 by Buzsaw
04-20-2010 10:12 AM


Re: Endorsement Not Establishment
My understanding is that the predominant religion in Haiti has, for a long time been a Roman Catholic voodoo religious aborition.
Buz, you have some very antiquated and ignorant beliefs about a lot of things. The majority of Haiti is Christian. Voodoo is a dying relic of the past. Secondly, China and Scandanavian countries have the highest atheist numbers on the planet and both are doing well compared to all the African nations who refer to themselves as Christian.
Maybe then there is no parallel, only that you've falsely invented one.
Interestingly, Lousiana is implicated in this as well in the Wiki site. Neither have fared well.
What precisely are you alluding to? That the Haiti earthquake and the N.O. levies breaking was God's vengence for Voodoo and/or Godlessness? Connect the dots for me.

"Political correctness is tyranny with manners." -- Charlton Heston

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Hyroglyphx
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Message 51 of 244 (556625)
04-20-2010 3:13 PM
Reply to: Message 49 by Faith
04-20-2010 2:29 PM


Re: The Constitution is OLD
Due to the passage of time and changing customs in the nation, many have come to regard the first amendment guaranteeing religious freedom to be ambiguous
I think it is pretty straight forward and unambiguous.
the question whether the amendment specifically applied to the various denominations of Christianity extant at the time of writing or was meant to be extended to cover other religions
Being that Jews and synagogues existed from the very beginning of the fledgling nation, it would certainly seem to extend to the government simply taking a neutral position on religion.
It is true the verbiage from Thomas Jefferson concerning a wall of separation was written to the Danbury Baptists, which whom were concerned that the gov't would institute an offical state religion. He quelled their fears by assuring them there would be no state religion.
But, of course, there could have been no forseeable way the framers could have known about Wiccans being that Wicca was invented in the 1950's. But the spirit of the writing remains intact, and that is that the U.S. government will pass no law giving preference to a religion or an official endorsement.

"Political correctness is tyranny with manners." -- Charlton Heston

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Hyroglyphx
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Message 54 of 244 (556635)
04-20-2010 3:40 PM
Reply to: Message 53 by Faith
04-20-2010 3:22 PM


Re: The Constitution is OLD
Since others disagree with you, however, the point would be to resolve the disagreement by establishing the predominant interpretation of what it means in writing as a new Constitutional amendment.
We don't make new amendments because people argue over the interpretation (see Second Amendment), that's why we have the Supreme Court, but even supposing we did, what amendment would you propose?

"Political correctness is tyranny with manners." -- Charlton Heston

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