Biological classification vs 'Kind'

Everybody has a responsibility for topic focus. Can everyone please try to move the topic back towards its purpose? Since Bob has joined the topic has changed a little bit, by mutual consent to discussing whether barminology fairs better than the consensus classification scheme by some standard or another.If the person you are debating with (whichever side of the fence) raises a point you think might be contributing to topic drift either redirect it back on topic somehow, ignore it, refer your opponent to an on-topic thread where you have posted your response but please try not to fill pages and pages of this thread up with discussions on the origin of the theory or vestigial organs, etc. I appreciate this kind of drift is perfectly natural, but a concerted effort can bring things back into relevance is needed.And Bob - I don't know your experience with forums previous, but this one lives and dies on topic focus. Experience has shown us that discussions can become useless noise if there is no focus. Before you write a reply - consider if it really contributes towards the discussion of consensus classification vs barminology.Until another moderator happens to take over, I'm officially dropping out of this thread as a participant and will be keeping an eye on things from here on in.Finally - check your subtitle threads. Some of them are quite old now.Please do not reply to this message. If you have any issue regarding it, or any other issues with this discussion - please post a message to Report discussion problems here: No.2

Hi Bob,
You have received many casual warnings regarding the Forum Guidelines. We do tend to give a lot of latitude for newcomers as long as they remain polite and civil - which I think we can all agree you have.However - they are there as a Guideline for users on how moderators want discussions to go. Without moderation discussions become very disorganised. I've put forward a warning to keep this thread on topic, along with the many you have already received. I commend you for your efforts in some posts to request discussion be taken elsewhere, but there remains too much off topic tangents.I have had to edit a number of your posts so that content is now hidden (not deleted) and I'm issuing a 12 Hour suspension - which most of the moderation team will probably think is merciful to the point of uselessness. But I have faith Bob - don't let me down.Taq, please heed the topic and consider this a moderator's friendly warning I've edited some of your posts too.And I hid the off-topic posts ruthlessly. There were tenuous links to the topic, but I'm pushing for a final round of productive, completely on-topic, discussion.Edited by AdminModulous, : No reason given.

Hello again everybody. There still seems to be plenty of interest in this discussion - and probably will be as long as a creationist is around that talks about 'kinds'. That said - the thread is getting a little long in the tooth.I'm leaving it open, and won't close it without warning, but if someone interested in the topic would care to Propose a descendant thread so that we can begin to wrap this one up towards some kind of conclusion that would be super. Unless participants are specifically keen to keep going in this thread.Oh! And thanks for everyone's efforts to refocus back to the topic - I've obviously been a little distracted with other EvC affairs recently so I've not been watching as closely as I was doing.