EvC Forum: Is the bible authoritive and truly inspired?

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Buzsaw

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Message 171 of 386 (575251)
08-19-2010 8:11 AM

Reply to: Message 159 by jar
08-18-2010 10:01 AM

jar writes:

archeologist writes:

........God promised to prreserve His word.

Where exactly is this promise? Chapter and Verse please.

These are a few.

The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever. (Psalms 12:6-7)

(Deuteronomy 4:1-2)
God cares about every one of His words. Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him. Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar. (Proverbs 30:5-6)

God's words will never pass away. Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away. (Jesus Christ, Son of God) (Mark 13:31)

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
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Message 173 of 386 (575268)
08-19-2010 8:48 AM

Reply to: Message 172 by jar
08-19-2010 8:33 AM

Re: Scripture Preserved.

Jar, you're straining at straws and swallowing camels. The manuscripts we have are old enough to the originals to be near perfect. There are translations such as the ASV which have been translated literally enough to fulfill the promises cited.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

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Message 185 of 386 (575410)
08-19-2010 10:27 PM

Reply to: Message 174 by jar
08-19-2010 9:07 AM

Re: Scripture Preserved.

jar writes:

Again, you present nothing but unsupported assertions.
Where is the evidence that shows "The manuscripts we have are old enough to the originals to be near perfect. "?

The quantity, literal compatibility and age of the manuscripts support authenticity.

Many of these variants simply involve a missing letter in a word; some involve reversing the order of two words (such as "Christ Jesus" instead of "Jesus Christ"); some may involve the absence of one or more insignificant words.

Really, when all the facts are put on the table, only about 50 of the variants have any real significance - and even then, no doctrine of the Christian faith or any moral commandment is effected by them.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

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Message 281 of 386 (577495)
08-29-2010 8:32 AM

Reply to: Message 274 by ringo
08-28-2010 1:59 PM

Re: Source of Authority, Source of Inspiration

ringo writes:

It isn't about believers though. Believers don't need an authoritative and inspired book if they already have the Holy Spirit whispering directly in their ears. What's the book good for if it can't convince unbelievers?

The Holy Spirit never contradicts the written word. It/he inspires, enlightens, bears witness with our spirit and enlivens, always within the bounds of scripture. It is the spirit of Jehovah who inspired the writers and the one and same spirit of Jesus, son of Jehovah, the Biblical god. He/it is the multipresent member of the trinity which makes the three one and by which the believer is spiritually born children of God, i.e. one spirit effecting the family of Jehovah.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

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