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jar Member (Idle past 422 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Sure. Post a message in the Proposed New Topic forum. The Original Post (commonly called OPies around here) should be fairly short and outline the basic topic to be discussed. It should hopefully limit and direct the discussion down one particular line of inquiry.
In it an initial position or question should be asked, but support for that position can be added as the discussion progresses. Immigration has been a problem Since 1607!
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JB1740 Member (Idle past 5973 days) Posts: 132 From: Washington, DC, US Joined: |
done. thanks.
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jar Member (Idle past 422 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Anyone want to post the Creationist model for making sand?
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jar Member (Idle past 422 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
^bump^
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 313 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
And God said: "Let there be sand". And there was sand.
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jar Member (Idle past 422 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Been a little over three years now and still not one Creationist model for making sand.
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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Itinerant Lurker Member (Idle past 2684 days) Posts: 67 Joined: |
I had a YEC once argue at length that both lunar dust and the wadis of the Sahara desert were formed through thousands of years of EM radiation. Does that count?
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jar Member (Idle past 422 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Well, temperature wearing is one of the methods in the conventional model and even discussed in this thread. Now if that idiot had taken the next step and explained how IR radiation (which is what he mentioned before switching to EM) worked, it could be tested.
And guess what? Temperature changed flaking can happen, but it does not produce sand. To get sand you need more than just weathering, you need the active transport and tumbling that then reduces the flakes to sand grains. But the directionality is always the same, higher objects get weathered and then transported to lower locations. So the conventional model still rules, first you have to uplift stuff before you can wear it down. Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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Itinerant Lurker Member (Idle past 2684 days) Posts: 67 Joined: |
Yeah, I tried to point this out to no avail. My favorite part was when it was argued that the Sahara couldn't have been formed by breaking down rocks because there were no really big rocks there.
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
jar writes: Here is the opportunity for Biblical Christians or Creationists or Creation Scientists (if there were any) to step up and present a model that explains sand. Perhaps whatever/whoever made the planet made the first sand along with the soil. Otherwise one might assume that in the forming of the planet there was nothing but rock. Then it gets even more testy. Perhaps the same thing that made rocks made sand. after all rocks, perse are all sizes, from great all the way down to sand. Otherwise one must begin with solid rock tectonic plates breaking down to large rocks, breaking down to smaller graduations of rock sizes. This leads to questions about the properties of the first soil and variables all the way down from sand to soil/dirt. No? BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW. The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future. Time Relates To What Is Temperal. What Is Eternal Is Timeless.
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jar Member (Idle past 422 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
That is not a model Buz, just word salad.
Buz writes: Perhaps whatever/whoever made the planet made the first sand along with the soil. How did it do that Buz, what is the model? As usual, no model is presented other than the current one. Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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Panda Member (Idle past 3741 days) Posts: 2688 From: UK Joined: |
Buzsaw writes:
What is impossible about this process? Otherwise one might assume that in the forming of the planet there was nothing but rock. Then it gets even more testy. Perhaps the same thing that made rocks made sand. after all rocks, perse are all sizes, from great all the way down to sand. Otherwise one must begin with solid rock tectonic plates breaking down to large rocks, breaking down to smaller graduations of rock sizes. Why do you think that "whatever/whoever made the planet made the first sand along with the soil" is supported by the supposed impossiblility of the above process? Edited by Panda, : No reason given.
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
jar writes: How did it do that Buz, what is the model? As usual, no model is presented other than the current one. I'll clarify the intention of my statement: Whatever, meaning whatever process, whether the current model or another. Whoever, implying an intelligent designer. Assuming the current model, rocks are essentially all sizes from massive to boulders, to stones to pebbles to various sized gravel to sand, relative to size. Humans assign terms determinate on rock size. Magnify a grain of sand enough and it appears to be a boulder. Assuming the current model, over time, all sizes less than massive would be a fragment of a larger rock as I assume the current model to be. No? If not, at what point in time would there have been no sand, no gravel, no stones no etc on up and at what point in time would the smallest sized stone have been, say, a boulder? BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW. The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future. Time Relates To What Is Temperal. What Is Eternal Is Timeless.
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jar Member (Idle past 422 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Well, you failed to clarify the intent of your statement.
the current model is outlined in the Original Post, but I'll repeat it for you.
quote: Now, what is YOUR model for making sand? Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
jar writes: The current model for making sand is pretty simple. Start with a mountain, a big sucker of a rock. BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW. The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future. Time Relates To What Is Temperal. What Is Eternal Is Timeless.
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