The Movie Paranormal Activity

Already answered.Ask me after I've died and I may be able to explain it.And I am uninterested in what could be called an afterlife.Learn to read what I write.

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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

Where? So what are these definitional differences? OK. So what are you talking about when you say "after I've died"....? Is GOD supernatural? Except after apparently dying? Or still not even then? The actuality of biblical Armageddon occurs and you don't consider this to be evidence of the supernatural but you "wake-up" after apparently dying and it is perfectly possible for the supernatural to be evidenced. Is that right? If correct can you explain your reasoning? If incorrect can you explain where I have misunderstood? I am genuinely trying to make sense of what you have written. But some clarification wouldn't go amiss here.

Please stop misrepresenting me, it is getting old.I have never said "after apparently dying", I have said "after I am dead".And yes, your Armageddon fantasy would not be evidence of the supernatural.

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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

If you clarified what you actually meant it might help here. If you retain consciousness after dying I am not sure how you could definitively distinguish between the two? But anyway.....I will assume that you somehow can for the sake of argument. Because as you put it earlier - Jar: "it would remain in the Unknown Category until all the evidence, model and method was understood at which time it would almost certainly be found to be Natural".But why wouldn't post death experiences also "remain in the Unknown Category until all the evidence, model and method was understood"....?Why are your criteria and categories different in the two cases? Except after dying? Or still not even then? Is GOD supernatural? So what are these definitional differences?

I will gladly repeat them for you.A 'god' is the most detailed caricature held by a particular people in a given milieu as described in a particular story. An example would be the 'god' described in Genesis 2&3 or the 'god' described in Genesis 1. Two entirely different descriptions with almost nothing in common.A 'God' is the next level of abstraction, for example the 'God' of the Old Testament or the 'God' of the New Testament, or the 'God' of Christianity or the 'God' of Islam.GOD, if GOD exists though is the reality, the territory as opposed to a map, the critter as opposed to the caricature or portrait.Edited by jar, : always find a teh in tehre appalin spallin

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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

OK. But what makes belief that this GOD "critter" does exist different from believing that any 'God' exists? Is there a difference as far as you are concerned? If so what is it? What am I missing? Is this GOD supernatural? Does GOD go in the "supernatural folder"? Except after dying? Or still not even then?

I don't know. Maybe after I am dead I will know.

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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

Several obvious questions spring to mind, here. First, the cameraman. If someone is filming the video, they would be actually experiencing an unexplainable event with their senses...rather than through a video, as the rest of us would do. My expectation is that the cameraman has a deeper perspective than mere watchers of the video would have. I agree with those who support the "unexplained" folder in lieu of a "supernatural" folder.One has to at least know what one is putting into a folder. Sounds logical to me. an unexplained folder can be examined the same way that a so called "supernatural" category would be. The only difference is that preconceived bias is largely eliminated. Which is no different from "unexplained".We could very well call it the Humpty Dumpty Folder, but the question that could be asked is this:"Do you want to find anything in particular? Do you find yourself hoping for a certain conclusion?

That's the subtle difference between looking at evidence and looking for evidence.

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If you have nothing to say, you could have done so much more concisely. -- Dr Adequate

What does being dead have to do with your ability to know enough to move things from the "unknown folder" to a "supernatural folder" as per your argument throughout this thread? If the end of times as invoked by the divine will of an omnipotent being fails to qualify as supernatural and necessarily goes in the "known" or "unknown" folder why does your post-death experience not also necessarily do the same?Can you at least see why this seems like an inconsistent application of your folder criteria? Can you clear up this apparent inconsistency?

Maybe after I am dead. Shall I keep repeating the answer for you?

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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

I'd prefer it if you answered the questions I am asking. What does being dead have to do with your ability to know enough to move things from the "unknown folder" to a "supernatural folder" as per your argument throughout this thread?

Way too funny.Sorry Charlie but I have never claimed that I could ever move things to a Supernatural folder.I have said that maybe after I am dead I might be able to but you will have to wait until after I am dead to even try to ask me for an answer and it may be even more difficult to get an answer then.Plus, there may not even be an answer even then.

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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

Indeed. You have stated that nothing - Not even biblical Armageddon - would be placed in the supernatural folder. Anything that could be construed as supernatural would instead be placed in the "unknown folder". I am asking why dying changes that? My question to you is then this - Why you think being dead elevates the supernatural folder to a maybe rather than the entirely unnecessary folder you stated it to be when experiencing biblical Armageddon whilst alive.What is the difference between the two scenarios that demands this change? Why aren't post death experiences also in the "unexplained folder"....? Sure. I never said that you claimed that you would have an answer. I just want to know why the folder situation changes.Edited by Straggler, : No reason given.

And I will gladly repeat the answer I have given you.I don't know. Ask me after I am dead and then I may know.And I have never mentioned post death experiences. I have said after I am dead. Period. Dead.Check back then and see if I can give you an answer you like better.It really is that simple.Edited by jar, : too many 'a's.

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Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!