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Nuggin
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Message 47 of 89 (621099)
06-23-2011 5:39 PM
Reply to: Message 41 by Adminnemooseus
06-23-2011 12:58 AM


Re: Member posts per topic
The problem with this is that it takes a LONG time and a LOT of posts to walk a creationist through the process of critical thinking.
One post of Gish Gallop usually spawns 10+ posts of replies.
Follow that up with one post of "Of course you guys say that, you are agents of satan".
And suddenly have the forum has "exceeded their post limits" for that given thread leaving nothing but fly by night Creationists who drop one offs of PRATTs.

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Nuggin
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Message 75 of 89 (621578)
06-27-2011 1:32 AM
Reply to: Message 73 by Chuck77
06-27-2011 1:18 AM


Re: why dogpiling occurs
So does Michael Behe or Stephen Meyer now this dissapointing news? Im not sure they recieved the memo, because there still strong advocates of ID.
Behe is still advocating things that he admitted were wrong under oath in Dover.
Dover doesn't mean ID is "false" or "junk Science". A battle was lost not the war
Actually, yes it does. It means exactly that.
When Creationism is held to a standard of evidence above and beyond "I say so", they fail MISERABLY.
You sound like someone from the South still claiming the Civil War is going on just because you don't want to admit defeat.
Dover demonstrated that the Creationist side of the debate lacks facts and relies almost entirely on the fact that the people giving them money are too stupid to realize they are being lied to.
Nowhere in the Dover transcripts do we get the impress than anyone from the Creationist side even comes close to actually believing what they claim.
It's all just a con game and a money printing machine for them. Why else would Behe still be teaching things he already admitted were wrong?
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Nuggin
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Message 86 of 89 (627329)
08-02-2011 4:05 AM
Reply to: Message 83 by Trae
08-01-2011 2:16 AM


Re: why dogpiling occurs
That was my point. That you could comment to summon an expert. You could also comment to point out dogpiling, but perhaps, comments themselves could provide an outlet to dogpiling that wouldn't impact threads and poster to the same extent.
For instance, some comments could be hardcoded. If fallacies are hardcoded, then those comments work more like votes then post.
>>12 people view this post as containing a strawman fallacy.
That won't reduce dog piling, it will increase it.
I've seen it over at Topix when they instituted flags for "funny" or "lemon" or whatever.
Creationist one posts this:
"Jesus made the dinosaurs"
Educated person responds:
"That doesn't make any sense, even within the narrow context of your religious belief."
Then 47 Creationists mark the response as "lemon".
Whether or not whatever is being posted is a strawman, you'll see people marking it strawman. Then you have admins trying to go back and correct labels. Then you have people arguing with admins about why it's not a strawman, or why it is a strawman.
Endless.
Edited by Adminnemooseus, : Fix *** thingy in quote box.

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