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Dr Jack
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Message 3 of 264 (661850)
05-10-2012 5:50 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Jazzns
05-10-2012 5:28 PM


Over forty years ago, when he was a child.
It's fucking bullshit to bring it up now.

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Message 5 of 264 (661855)
05-10-2012 6:02 PM
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05-10-2012 5:56 PM


Upbringing isn't, no.
Character is, but the behaviour of a child isn't. If you want to throw shit on his character pick something from his adult life; preferably from recent times.

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Message 12 of 264 (661865)
05-10-2012 6:16 PM
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05-10-2012 6:13 PM


Change is possible
Do I think he has changed? No, I don't. I think Romney was scum then and scum now.
However, I think people can change, and in order for people to be allowed to change we have to assume they can and be willing to let the past rest. I also know that a great many people did shitty things in high school.
Forty years, RAZD, it's a very long time to still be paying for one's mistakes.

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Message 13 of 264 (661866)
05-10-2012 6:17 PM
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05-10-2012 6:08 PM


Please explain, Mr. Asimov.
I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

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Message 14 of 264 (661867)
05-10-2012 6:18 PM
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05-10-2012 6:10 PM


He wasn't exactly a child - this happened a few months shy of his HS graduation.
So, he was, what 15? 16? I'm not quite sure where high school lies in the US.
Yes, he was a child. Frankly, 18 is pretty bloody young, under the age of majority certainly is.

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Message 15 of 264 (661868)
05-10-2012 6:19 PM
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05-10-2012 6:04 PM


Upbringing
So you think people should be held responsible for the opinions and actions of their parents?

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Message 22 of 264 (661877)
05-10-2012 6:40 PM
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05-10-2012 6:29 PM


A 17 year old is a child, and this was almost 50 years ago. Do you honestly think people can't change in that time?
Would you rather that every presidential hopeful need to guard their every action from the age of what, 15? 16? 17?, in order to be considered for election?

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Message 23 of 264 (661879)
05-10-2012 6:42 PM
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05-10-2012 6:25 PM


Re: the pathology of bullying?
Loads of people are involved in bullying. Not least people who are bullied themselves.
You, RAZD, have engaged in behaviour here - on EvCForum - that could be described as bullying. There is no clean divide between bullies and not bullies. It's bad behaviour, but nearly everyone has engaged in it at one time or another.

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Message 25 of 264 (661882)
05-10-2012 6:47 PM
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05-10-2012 6:44 PM


Re: Change is possible
You are assuming that bully behavior stopped at 18, an age old enough to be drafted ...
No, I'm not assuming that. I'm saying that if you want to use the past against him you need to dig up incidents from when he was not a child.

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