Romney the Bully

No, that's not what I said. I did not say that either. I simply said that I did not like people who attempted to call offensive fouls. That would be regardless of whether any contact was or was not an offensive foul. Maybe you were a bully as a teenager. You are free to give Romney a pass on his behavior then and now.

Yes... Once again more word play bullshit. Him and some friends tackled a dude and cut his hair. That's what happened. I once gathered a mob to pants someone. No, his current record as president is of greater offense. Stop it... That's fine. But realistically, our opinions at 18 can change over the years. So much so that you can champion a cause with even greater concern having once known the true nature of being opposed to it. It's called maturity, you should get some.- Oni

I'm more concerned with Romney belonging to a church that not so long ago denied black people the right to join.What he did as an 18 year old with some friends hazing the odd kid is really bogus as a worry. No more of a concern than the amount of women he lied to to get in bed. To focus on this is petty.- Oni

So why does Romney feel the need to lie about a non-event. My issue is primarily his current refusal to acknowledge that the event even happened. You are mistaken about exactly what abhorrent policy the LDS used to have towards blacks. But in any event, this thread isn't really about listing all of Romney's flaws.

He said he forgot about the event, why do you assume he's lying? I get that. But like I said, if it is him saying "I forgot" just to squash the subject, since it was when he was 18, I can see past it.It should never have been made an issue. Yeah I admit some ignorance on the subject of the LDS but it was omething to the effect of not allowing black members for reasons I assume are not so nice.- Oni

Right, and that's assault and battery with a deadly weapon. We're not overstating anything at all; what Romney did was incite a mob to commit assault and battery with a deadly weapon. It's just that simple. There's no "safe" way to hold somebody down and cut their hair off with scissors; somebody kicks this way or bucks that way, and those scissors might have winded up in that kid's eye socket. That's why the crimes of assault and battery exist - it's actually not ok to do stuff like that, because of the risk of injury. Just hypothetical. Your two criteria for dismissing the event were that it happened 40 years ago, and that it represented popular attitudes towards minorities at the time.But that's not an excuse. Some things are wrong no matter what people thought at the time. What's the evidence Romney's have changed? This seems to be, in fact, the only thing he's never changed his mind about. And it's your contention that Romney has now become a champion of gay rights? What's your evidence for that?

Doesn't that depend on the scissors? Here's two extremes: I wouldn't count those pink ones as a "deadly weapon".

Those pink ones wouldn't cut hair.And did plastic safety scissors exist 40 years ago?

They usually have metal on the inside edge like this: I dunno. I'm not saying he used safety scissors, and we all know he would never touch pink ones... I'm just saying its not so cut-n-dry as definately being assault with a deadly weapon

Does anyone think that this story might actually cost Romney any votes?Will it not actually solidify his base and maybe even increase his support?

This particular event? Probably not. But, as some of us have been saying, it points to his woodeness, his sense of entitlement.Even James Lipton is offering coaching advice to Mittens.How To Act Human: James Lipton's Advice For Mitt Romney | Crooks and LiarsI think Romney should take it.

But even that sense of entitlement pays directly to his likely voting audience.I would not be surprised to find out that his campaign committee didn't leak the story.

Maybe in nerd court. Or it could just be some dudes cutting your hair in man the fuck up court. Your fancy lawyer talk don't scare me. Dude you sound like a mom. Were you ever fucked with as a kid? I once got choked out by a dude in the park cuz he wanted to show everyone that the sleeper hold worked and I was the smallest one there. I'm not going to call that attempted murder. Fair enough. Well, I don't know if you can say that just because he doesn't support gay marriage. My mom doesn't support gay marriage.But I would think he would not cut some White House intern's hair with a group of friends these days just because they are dressed different. No not at all. Just that an 18 year old can change to the point of being able to champion the very thing he once hated. Seemed like you were fixed on the opinion of an 18 year old not being able to change.- OniEdited by onifre, : No reason given.

No, in real court.I don't understand someone who thinks it's cool, or whatever, no big deal, to get a mob to tackle a guy, hold him down, and wave a fairly dangerous sharp object around his face and eyes. Is it some kind of "no harm, no foul" to you? Because it turns out, the guy actually was harmed by it. I didn't say Romney was guilty of attempted murder. I said that he committed an assault with a deadly weapon, because that's what happened.You were assaulted, too. Dudes in the park shouldn't just come up to you and choke you out. That's not something that it's ok for people to do, Oni! Yeah, but your mom's a bitch.

Nerd court. I didn't say it was cool or not a big deal, I'm saying it's not assault with a deadly weapon unless you're just being a punk about getting roughed up by some stronger dudes in a fucking PREP school. Please. Didn't say it was ok, I said it's not attemted murder.The dudes are a metaphor for life and the choke is the unfair shit that happens to us. Lesson learned. Thanks tough hispanic kids at the park. Nicely done.- OniEdited by onifre, : No reason given.