Give your one best shot - against evolution

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Originally posted by KingPenguin:
the fact that humans havent speciated and arent beginning to.

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what is your evidence of that?how do you know that we won't speciate?

if you are going to make such bold claims, do so with some sort of substantiation.

you do know he's joking, right "O"

but assuming that phillip is not joking- where is the evidence of this conspiracyanything you can dish out an share.meanwhile, Floris O/ we better call the Boss- this guy knows too much.

i pray he's joking- that's all i can say.

please tell me that everything you said has been a joke- please.

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Originally posted by Jet:
[[[Now we could examine how "leading" these scientists are, or how ludicrous is the selective quotation, but lets not. What's the point when faced with ignorance of this magnitutude?]

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Why does this seem to be the most typical response evolutionists use when faced with negative press! Try refuting their quotes or their credentials instead of just dismissing them or ignoring them. The site I referenced offers access to over 4,000 such quotes from leading scientists. I guess it is just easier for evolutionists to close their eyes and wish the negative comments away than to offer any substantial refutations to the quotes or to the scientists credentials. This has been the most typical response evolutionists offer to anything that even remotely challenges their beliefs. They would rather dismiss quotes a few decades old than dismiss a flawed and unscientific theory that is centuries old and was held in belief much longer than most are willing to admit. Neo-Darwinian thought is nothing more than a modern day rehash of centuries old philosophy and pagan religious beliefs. Any honest study of ancient pagan rituals and beliefs will confirm this. I realize how distasteful it is for evolutionists to hear that they are merely perpetuating an age-old religious belief, with a few new twists thrown in for good measure, but the fact remains that evolutionary thought started long before Darwin ever came along. There is nothing new under the sun. Sorry!

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Jet- I watch in amazement as verbal retoric flows from your mouth like diorhea.Maybe you should change your tactics- or maybe I'm an evil scientific drone. Regardles, I think it would be wise to present evidence of your statements BEFORE you go on a storming rampage, tearing up evolution, and achieving nothing for the creationist camp- just a thought.I notice a pattern in your debating that is so flawless, so precise, that one could compare it to the magnificence of the fossil strata.your first argument was that evolution is accepted because some neo-nazis, using hitlerian tactics, are propagating false facts and scientific lies. when asked for evidence of this massive and seemingly pointless conspiracy, you made no response. Instead, you made a right turn down insult ave., where you threw verbal acid at what you call close-minded, neo-nazi skinheads, or evilutionists, whom you accused of neither listening to you or learning from you. But when other members asked you to instead focus on proving creationism and participating in deabtes, you predicatbly abandoned this dying tactic. So it was time to march, or rather, stampede, to the beat of a new tune, the old "evolution is wrong, don't ask me why, and creationism is right" nonsense, 5th quartet. Now I will ask for evidence of the so-called "evolutionist religion", and this too will be discarded into your pile of failed tactics.Or perhaps I am mistaken. Perhaps you are in honest pursuit of the truth, digging up those files, searching for that evidence of Darwin's third eye, or the photo of Carl Sagan participating in a Satanic ceremony. Perhaps you are digging hard to find those indisputable records of Schrafinator's past criminal record. And very possibly it is only a matter of time before you stun the world with new studies proving that evolution is completely flawed.maybe.So I make a proposal- get some evidence.

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[This message has been edited by quicksink, 03-14-2002]

Jet- evolutionary thought has been around for ages.Before natural selection became a widely accepted theory, they did a little experiement- they cut off the tails of more than 4 generations of rats. They figured that if you changed something mechanically, a new generation would inherit this quality. Why? Because they were looking for a mechanism that could drive evolution.Then natural selection came sliding along.It is true that the principle of evolution has existed for years, this principle being that animals adapted, or changed, over time- they evolved from a single ancestor. How or why, they did not know.You can continue to throw out claims, but you should also understand what you're saying.When natural selection was conceived, it was heralded by those scientists as a breakthrough. Others dismissed it. For now, it has withstood the test of time. The fossil record shows a undeniable pattern- primitve species lower, advanced specied higher. Microevolution is obsserved in laboratories as they battle diseases, etc. And the age of the earth, which is confirmed by a highly reliable and corroborated method of dating, C14, has shown that the earth is old enough to allow for time for species to evolve.Not to mention Stanley Miller's famous experiment where he demonstrated the possibility of spontaneous generation.

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