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Rahvin
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Message 19 of 86 (681898)
11-28-2012 1:26 PM
Reply to: Message 16 by Faith
11-28-2012 1:17 PM


Re: Christian?
I guess I can name Protestant Reformers galore who believed and taught what I'm saying and you'll still attribute it all to ME personally? Weird.
Don't worry, Faith. We all know you're not the first or last Christian to use the "No True Scotsman" argument to distance yourself from anyone who disagrees with you. Christianity as a whole has a very long history of individual sects denying that other denomination's are "true Scotsman" er, "True Christians." We get it, we understand - only those specific Protestant denominations (and even congregations) that agree with you on Biblical interpretation including (but not limited to) the Earth being 6-9000 years old can possibly be "True Christians" under your judgment. All others are at minimum being led astray by deception, or worse, are active tools of Satan.
That about cover it?

The human understanding when it has once adopted an opinion (either as being the received opinion or as being agreeable to itself) draws all things else to support and agree with it.
- Francis Bacon
"There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs." - John Rogers
A world that can be explained even with bad reasons is a familiar world. But, on the other hand, in a universe suddenly divested of illusions and lights, man feels an alien, a stranger. His exile is without remedy since he is deprived of the memory of a lost home or the hope of a promised land. This divorce between man and his life, the actor and his setting, is properly the feeling of absurdity. — Albert Camus
"...the pious hope that by combining numerous little turds of
variously tainted data, one can obtain a valuable result; but in fact, the
outcome is merely a larger than average pile of shit." Barash, David 1995.

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Message 38 of 86 (681942)
11-28-2012 7:01 PM
Reply to: Message 37 by Faith
11-28-2012 6:46 PM


Re: Creationists and microevolution
Faith, what mechanism prevents the "small changes" of "microevolution" from becoming the large, species-or-higher differentiation of "macroevolution" over many generations?
Please be specific. Small steps unimpeded, after all, add up to long journeys. Is the mechanism blocking this cumulative change under your model simply the lack of sufficient time for the small changes to sufficiently accumulate?

The human understanding when it has once adopted an opinion (either as being the received opinion or as being agreeable to itself) draws all things else to support and agree with it.
- Francis Bacon
"There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs." - John Rogers
A world that can be explained even with bad reasons is a familiar world. But, on the other hand, in a universe suddenly divested of illusions and lights, man feels an alien, a stranger. His exile is without remedy since he is deprived of the memory of a lost home or the hope of a promised land. This divorce between man and his life, the actor and his setting, is properly the feeling of absurdity. — Albert Camus
"...the pious hope that by combining numerous little turds of
variously tainted data, one can obtain a valuable result; but in fact, the
outcome is merely a larger than average pile of shit." Barash, David 1995.

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Message 50 of 86 (682033)
11-29-2012 3:45 PM
Reply to: Message 49 by NoNukes
11-29-2012 3:31 PM


Re: interesting?
Really? More terrible than the Inquisition, the Holocaust, and slavery? More terrible than anything the early Christians faced?
I would have simply pointed out that most liberals are, in fact, Christians. It's not just the comparison that's off-kilter - the claim that "Christians are the victims of systemic abuse and bigotry" is flat ridiculous on its face. They just feel like having their own bigotry exposed, or having their "rights" to force their beliefs onto those who do not share them removed, is somehow a form of bigotry.

The human understanding when it has once adopted an opinion (either as being the received opinion or as being agreeable to itself) draws all things else to support and agree with it.
- Francis Bacon
"There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs." - John Rogers
A world that can be explained even with bad reasons is a familiar world. But, on the other hand, in a universe suddenly divested of illusions and lights, man feels an alien, a stranger. His exile is without remedy since he is deprived of the memory of a lost home or the hope of a promised land. This divorce between man and his life, the actor and his setting, is properly the feeling of absurdity. — Albert Camus
"...the pious hope that by combining numerous little turds of
variously tainted data, one can obtain a valuable result; but in fact, the
outcome is merely a larger than average pile of shit." Barash, David 1995.

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Message 62 of 86 (682072)
11-29-2012 7:32 PM
Reply to: Message 61 by kofh2u
11-29-2012 7:25 PM


Re: interesting?
a tax bite in Welfare that now costs as much as the Military budget every year.
Click here
"Welfare" = 12% of the US Federal budget.
Defense is 25%.
I think you're more than a little off.
And, you know...most everything else you say on this board is also wrong. Really, all of it; I don;t think I've ever seen you make a factually accurate statement, even once.

The human understanding when it has once adopted an opinion (either as being the received opinion or as being agreeable to itself) draws all things else to support and agree with it.
- Francis Bacon
"There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs." - John Rogers
A world that can be explained even with bad reasons is a familiar world. But, on the other hand, in a universe suddenly divested of illusions and lights, man feels an alien, a stranger. His exile is without remedy since he is deprived of the memory of a lost home or the hope of a promised land. This divorce between man and his life, the actor and his setting, is properly the feeling of absurdity. — Albert Camus
"...the pious hope that by combining numerous little turds of
variously tainted data, one can obtain a valuable result; but in fact, the
outcome is merely a larger than average pile of shit." Barash, David 1995.

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