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glowby Member Posts: 75 From: Fox River Grove, IL Joined:
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Greatest I am writes: Should there be a law against public institutions that lie for money? As others have pointed out, we have fraud laws for that. They're weak, but keep a lot of dishonest atrocities at bay. But what about when they lie for other reasons ... for power or votes or to promote ideologies of hatred and oppression? It's hard to make laws about these things. Humans disagree on the morality of these types of lies. Edited by glowby, : disagree is truer than can't agree
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Greatest I am Member (Idle past 303 days) Posts: 1676 Joined: |
ringo
Enforcement to end this type of abuse. The crooks ain't just confined to religions. Here are a few more crooks:Rank Charity name... Total raised by solicitors ...Paid to solicitors ... % spent on direct cash aid 1 Kids Wish Network 137.9million 115.9 million 2.5% 2 Cancer Fund of America 86.8million 75.4 million 1.0% 3 Children's Wish Foundation International 92.7million 61.2 million 10.6% 4 Firefighters Charitable Foundation 62.8million 53.8 million 7.4% 5 International Union of Police Associations, AFL-CIO 66.6million 50.4 million 0.5% 6 Breast Cancer Relief Foundation 63.9million 44.8 million 2.2% 7 American Association of State Troopers 48.1million 38.6 million 8.9% 8 National Veterans Service Fund 70.2million 36.9 million 7.8% 9 Children's Cancer Fund of America 43.7million 34.4 million 4.6% 10 Children's Cancer Recovery Foundation 38.5million 28.9 million 0.7% 11 Project Cure (Bradenton, FL) 53.8million 25.5 million 0.0% 12 Committee For Missing Children 26.6million 23.5 million 0.8% 13 Youth Development Fund 27.5million 22.6 million 1.0% 14 Association for Firefighters and Paramedics 24.0million 21.4 million 3.1% 15 Woman To Woman Breast Cancer Foundation 19.4million 18.2 million 0.3% 16 United States Deputy Sheriffs' Association 25.6million 17.9 million 0.8% 17 National Caregiving Foundation 21.0million 17.4 million 3.2% 18 Vietnow National Headquarters 19.1million 16.7 million 2.8% 19 National Cancer Coalition 42.1million 16.4 million 1.3% 20 Operation Lookout National Center for Missing Youth 18.2million 14.7 million 0.0% 21 American Foundation For Disabled Children 15.8million 13.4 million 0.6% 22 Heart Support of America 31.4million 12.9 million 3.1% 23 Police Protective Fund 37.7million 12.2 million 0.7% 24 Veterans Assistance Foundation 12.4million 11.1 million 10.4% 25 Children's Charity Fund 14.0million 10.3 million 2.4% 26 The Veterans Fund 12.6million 10.2 million 2.5% 27 Wishing Well Foundation USA 12.6million 10.1 million 4.3% 28 Disabled Police Officers of America Inc. 11.4million 9.5 million 2.3% 29 Disabled Police and Sheriffs Foundation 10.4million 8.9 million 1.0% 30 National Police Defense Foundation 10.6million 8.4 million 5.1% 31 Defeat Diabetes Foundation 12.7million 7.8 million 0.0% 32 American Association of the Deaf & Blind 10.3million 7.8 million 0.1% 33 Optimal Medical Foundation 7.8million 7.6 million 1.0% 34 Circle of Friends For American Veterans 9.3million 7.2 million 4.4% 35 United Breast Cancer Foundation 12.7million 7.2 million 6.3% 36 Reserve Police Officers Association 7.8million 6.9 million 1.2% 37 Children's Leukemia Research Association 9.8million 6.8 million 11.1% 38 Disabled Police Officers Counseling Center 7.6million 6.4 million 0.1% 39 Shiloh International Ministries 7.7million 6.0 million 1.1% 40 Find the Children 7.4million 4.8 million 4.6% 41 Survivors and Victims Empowered 7.7million 4.8 million 0.0% 42 Firefighters Assistance Fund 5.7million 4.7 million 3.1% 43 Caring for Our Children Foundation 5.1million 4.4 million 1.6% 44 National Narcotic Officers Associations Coalition 5.0million 4.2 million 0.0% 45 Our American Veterans 2.6million 2.3 million 2.3% 46 Roger Wyburn-Mason & Jack M Blount Foundation For Eradication of Rheumatoid Disease 9.0million 1.9 million 0.0% 47 Hope Cancer Fund 2.1million 1.7 million 0.5% 48 Firefighters Burn Fund 2.0million 1.7 million 1.5% Crooks all, and there ain't nothing illegal about it. RegardsDL
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Greatest I am Member (Idle past 303 days) Posts: 1676 Joined: |
ringo
I also think that religions should not receive any tax breaks of any kind and that their adherents should not be able to use what they give as tax deductions. Churches are just theatres showing adult fairy tales and we cannot deduct what we spend at other theatres so should not be able to deduct what is basically entertainment. RegardsDL
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Greatest I am Member (Idle past 303 days) Posts: 1676 Joined: |
Nonukes
When a religion begins it's teachings with the notion that God is unknowable, unfathomable and works in mysterious ways, and then teaches reams of information on all they say they know as truth of that unknowable and unfathomable God, one can know as a fact that they are lying. RegardsDL
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ringo Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Greatest I am writes:
You asked if there should be a law. There is. If the law is not being enforced, what do you propose SPECIFICALLY to change that situation? Enforcement to end this type of abuse. And why do you call the Children's Wish Foundation crooks?
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Greatest I am Member (Idle past 303 days) Posts: 1676 Joined: |
Tangle
It is quite hard for the church to get rid of notions that can draw in a lot of cash/indulgences. If your child is in heaven, you will not give cash to the church.If not in heaven, gullible people will pay the fare. RegardsDL
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ringo Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Greatest I am writes:
That's a different issue. Churches (hypothetically) use some of their donations for feeding the hungry, etc., which is a justifiable social benefit.
I also think that religions should not receive any tax breaks of any kind and that their adherents should not be able to use what they give as tax deductions.
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jar Member (Idle past 423 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Adults don't try to discuss by youtube links.
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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Greatest I am Member (Idle past 303 days) Posts: 1676 Joined: |
glowby
There is no consensus on all things but if you read that long list above, the immorality and illegality should be apparent to any prosecutor worth his title. We are not enforcing our law and you and I pay the fair share of taxes that those corporations are not paying. RegardsDL
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Greatest I am Member (Idle past 303 days) Posts: 1676 Joined: |
ringo
I was not going to cherry pick that list. You can pull the one out of 50 if you like though. RegardsDL
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Greatest I am Member (Idle past 303 days) Posts: 1676 Joined: |
ringo
No argument. That does not forgive there overall abuse of the public purse that you and I underwrite. RegardsDL
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Greatest I am Member (Idle past 303 days) Posts: 1676 Joined: |
jar
To the ignorant go the spoils. RegardsDL
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ringo Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Greatest I am writes:
It isn't 1 out of 50. Did you read your own list? You've got cancer funds, firefighters' funds, police funds, veterans funds, missing children's funds, etc. Why are you calling them crooks?
I was not going to cherry pick that list. You can pull the one out of 50 if you like though.
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ringo Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Greatest I am writes:
You haven't demonstrated any abuse yet.
That does not forgive there overall abuse of the public purse that you and I underwrite.
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