Jimmy Carter

Joe Heller well said: One of the good presidents.Enjoy

Probably the biggest trial he had was the Iran hostage crisis.Why I think he was good was that he did not go to war over it as would happen today with any number of GOP candidates.Enjoy

And his lowering the highway speed limit to 50 by executive order was a good example of dealing with problems caused by others. Personally I think we could live with 40 mph, but then I'm biased as a cyclist ... You mean like Schrubbia? Enjoy

Well I actually thought about just that issue when I posted, but without any new YECs I thought I would provide some fill broadcasting ... And actions - I think he's done more post-president than as president. I often wonder how much a president's hands are tied by the dept of defense etc. It seems a lot of president's get elected on great programs and then they have their first security council briefing and the actions follow their predecessors actions more than their promises.Enjoy

And yet he was better imho than Raygun. For both the US and the world.Enjoy

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That's certainly one of the problems with Facebook (where the image came from), where you often see cherry-picked factoids presented.But it also depends on what you think are critical elements - my views seem different from yours here. Or with thoughtful reserve and reluctance to play the big bully. And I guess that depends on what you think a "good leader" means. Raygun invaded Grenada and Bushy Sr invaded Panama - both "met problems energetically, forthrightly and head on" but were their "solutions" for the greater good? Authoritarian people often seem like good choices for leaders because they act without question, full of Dunning-Kruger Self Assurance that they are *right* ...Raygun started the income inequality slide by initiating economic polices "energetically, forthrightly and head on" in spite of the fact that it was hogwash economics and depended heavily on stealing money from the Social Security funds to hide how underfinanced his budget was.Raygun had the Iran-Contra arms deal in his Whitehouse basement, because he "met problems energetically, forthrightly and head on" regardless of whether his "solution" actually involved high treason or violated US or international law.How many people in Carter's administration were investigated for illegal activity? How many were convicted of felonies?Does being a leader that can get people to march into a quagmire a good thing? When is such a "Pied Piper" Leader who takes countries into war when other solutions are possible a "good" leader as opposed to one that uses quiet back room diplomacy?Enjoy

And I think you confuse pied-piper effectiveness with good leadership.Reagan's "leadership" was based on lies and misinformation portrayed as "truth" by a B-class actor that could say lines as though he meant them.Reagan's "leadership" has taken us down the path to today's income\economy disaster, and made the middle east situation worse.Reagan's "leadership" resulted in the greatest number of white house staff convictions for breaking the laws of this country.Reagan's "leadership" involved invading a small defenseless sovereign nation on a pretext that served no purpose other than to assert US Imperialism and Corporatism. Can you name *one* good direction that Reagan lead us?Can you name *one* bad direction that Carter lead us?Really?Enjoy