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Jon
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Message 14 of 96 (769952)
09-27-2015 7:47 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Diomedes
04-15-2014 2:54 PM


Anyone have any guesses what century it will be before we finally cast off the vestiges of our less enlightened past and admit that celestial events like these are nothing more than a neat light show?
There's nothing wrong with seeing more in a lunar eclipse than a 'neat light show'.
You may think finding meaning in otherwise spiritless and mechanical processes is a 'vestige of our less enlightened past', but I think it's what makes us human and our lives worth living.

Love your enemies!

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Jon
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Message 47 of 96 (770007)
09-27-2015 7:53 PM
Reply to: Message 15 by AZPaul3
09-27-2015 11:27 AM


Re: Spirit Be Damned.
The problem is that this meaning from our less enlightened past could mean other humans had their lives made more miserable and too early ended.
It can also mean compassion for others and motivation for self-improvement.

Love your enemies!

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Jon
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Message 59 of 96 (770026)
09-28-2015 11:12 AM
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09-28-2015 9:16 AM


Re: Spirit Be Damned.
Of course it has. Death and disease are purely spiritless and mechanical processes.
The fact that we both care about them shows that we see meaning in some of the most mundane things in nature.
Assigning meaning to our world is as necessary for doing good as it is for doing bad - probably even moreso.

Love your enemies!

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Jon
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Message 65 of 96 (770035)
09-28-2015 1:39 PM
Reply to: Message 61 by NoNukes
09-28-2015 11:51 AM


Re: Spirit Be Damned.
I see. So it's only okay for people to find meaning in the spiritless and mechanical processes you approve of.
Have fun with that.

Love your enemies!

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Jon
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Message 71 of 96 (770048)
09-28-2015 4:14 PM
Reply to: Message 66 by NoNukes
09-28-2015 2:03 PM


Re: Spirit Be Damned.
I never said people ought to believe in anything, much less 'astronomical omens'.
Once again you are inventing an argument and calling it mine to avoid dealing with the argument I am actually making.

Love your enemies!

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Jon
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Message 72 of 96 (770052)
09-28-2015 7:22 PM
Reply to: Message 69 by AZPaul3
09-28-2015 3:03 PM


Re: Spirit Be Damned.
Moving the goal posts, again.
I'm moving nothing. My original statement was:
There's nothing wrong with seeing more in a lunar eclipse than a 'neat light show'.
And I stand by that statement.
Finding meaning in the mundane is a basic part of being human, and there is nothing wrong about finding meaning in anything and everything at all.

Love your enemies!

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Jon
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Message 75 of 96 (770056)
09-28-2015 9:38 PM
Reply to: Message 73 by AZPaul3
09-28-2015 8:39 PM


Re: Spirit Be Damned.
If you truly and deeply believe it is wrong to find meaning in an eclipse, you are mad.
I suggest you find better things to worry about, though, than what some folks think of the moon.

Love your enemies!

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Jon
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Message 79 of 96 (770068)
09-29-2015 7:20 AM
Reply to: Message 78 by AZPaul3
09-29-2015 4:53 AM


Re: Spirit Be Damned.
My job is to point out how incredibly stupid that is.
And how much does that pay?

Love your enemies!

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Jon
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Message 83 of 96 (770114)
09-29-2015 5:40 PM
Reply to: Message 81 by ringo
09-29-2015 12:04 PM


Re: Spirit Be Damned.
It's wrong to try to end the world; it is not wrong too think the world is ending.

Love your enemies!

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Jon
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Message 87 of 96 (770141)
09-30-2015 7:03 AM
Reply to: Message 84 by NoNukes
09-29-2015 9:22 PM


Re: Spirit Be Damned.
You claim that it is somehow useful to attach meaning to eclipses
No, I don't. I claim that there is nothing wrong with it.

Love your enemies!

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Jon
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Message 91 of 96 (770165)
09-30-2015 1:48 PM
Reply to: Message 88 by NoNukes
09-30-2015 9:35 AM


Re: Spirit Be Damned.
That's nice. But I have no interest in further wasting my time with you.

Love your enemies!

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Jon
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Message 92 of 96 (770166)
09-30-2015 1:50 PM
Reply to: Message 90 by ringo
09-30-2015 11:37 AM


Re: Spirit Be Damned.
Nonsense. And you know it.
Splitting hairs may be your specialty.
But that doesn't make you good at it.

Love your enemies!

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