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Author Topic:   With a dying white race, why are we not encouraging more white births?
Tangle
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Message 5 of 237 (773945)
12-11-2015 9:59 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Greatest I am
12-10-2015 8:52 PM


That flies in the face of evidence which shows that, while fertility rates have historically been significantly higher among Muslims, birth rates are now dropping among Muslim immigrant populations in Europe and in Muslim countries.
A 2007 study by demographers Charles Westhoff and Tomas Frejka identified the same trend among Muslim immigrant populations in most countries where data was available, including Austria, Slovenia, the Netherlands, Belgium, Germany, Switzerland and England and Wales.
The total fertility rate among Muslim women is almost always higher than that of the native population, but with the passage of time Muslim fertility moves closer to the fertility of the majority of the population in the respective countries.
In this country, the study tracks changing fertility rates among women from Pakistan and Bangladesh (assumed to be overwhelmingly Muslim).
Women from Pakistan and Bangladesh tend to have more children, but the fertility gap shrinks over the decades.
The US Pew Forum think-tank predicts that this gap will continue to diminish in the coming decades in all European countries.
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Message 17 of 237 (774051)
12-12-2015 2:10 PM
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12-12-2015 2:03 PM


GIA writes:
I recognize that over time immigrants move towards the same birth trends as the host country. This does not take away from the fact that their initial human contribution and subsequent ongoing immigration will eventually change the fabric of the nation because they reproduce more initially.
That is why many do not like the idea of Muslim immigration because of Sharia encroaching on the original political system.
I'm fine with changing the fabric of my society - it's good for us, in the long term it's the only way we're all going to get along. Within limits.
Sharia law is outwith those limits and is not a reasonable fear.

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"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.

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Message 20 of 237 (774055)
12-12-2015 2:21 PM
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12-12-2015 2:19 PM


The Middle East is not England. Sharia law will not, and can not, become something we need to worry about here, so long as we make it clear where the lines are drawn.

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"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.

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Message 183 of 237 (775000)
12-26-2015 5:07 AM
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12-26-2015 4:13 AM


Odd that the two things that fundamental Christians and Muslims have in common is the belief that the end times are upon us. God bless 'em.

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien.
Life, don't talk to me about life - Marvin the Paranoid Android
"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.

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