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Author Topic:   With a dying white race, why are we not encouraging more white births?
Faith 
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Message 42 of 237 (774486)
12-18-2015 11:39 AM
Reply to: Message 41 by ringo
12-18-2015 11:13 AM


All immigrants are not equal, that's why sane nations have laws about what immigrants to accept. Muslim nations are not exactly fine examples of successful cultures, whereas I'd guess your grandparents came from a successful western culture and that's why they could enrich Canada's. My own grandparents went to Canada from the UK and have produced a large fourth generation of successful descendants.
By the way there is a law in the US that was written in 1952 that I just heard about and can't remember the name of, that was aimed at Communists at the time but would certainly apply to Muslims: prohibiting the immigration of people whose beliefs include the overthrow of the American government, which certainly describes the written intentions of Islam whether any given Muslim is inclined to act on them at the moment or not. Prohibits their immigration and provides the ground to deport them at any time.
And, not particularly to you but to the thread in general: What is this insane idea that our laws apply to foreigners? Such as the first amendment. Laws apply to the citizens of the country. Period.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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Faith 
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Message 44 of 237 (774492)
12-18-2015 11:58 AM
Reply to: Message 42 by Faith
12-18-2015 11:39 AM


All the stuff GIA has been imputing to the white race has nothing to do with race, but with culture, and the culture of Europeans, which the white race happened to populate, produced all those benefits because of its philosophical foundations, which included Christianity. Not about race, about culture and philosophy. Prohibiting Muslims from immigration has nothing to do with race either, it's about the culture of Islam and its subversive intentions.

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Message 45 of 237 (774493)
12-18-2015 12:04 PM
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12-18-2015 11:56 AM


wasn't I clear that the point is the WRITTEN intentions of the culture the people are from. Islam's documents prescribe the overthrow of everything nonMuslim and the establishment of a worldwide caliphate with Sharia law which is opposed to American law and western law in general. '
If the population of a group that follows such an agenda grows large enough of course it can overthrow the US government.
150 years ago nobody COULD overthrow our government, but that was really because God was on our side. He isn't any more.
But we've always had laws prohibiting or limiting immigration to culturally alien people too. People who have no intentuion of assimilating ought to be prohibited.
As for other forces taking over the government, the present regime has gone a long way toward that end and I'm well aware there are many others contributing their own subversive agendas.

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Message 47 of 237 (774496)
12-18-2015 12:19 PM
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12-18-2015 12:16 PM


As I recall, at least one branch of your family is German, right? Speaking English is certainly a high priority for immigration I would think, but then the Germans did learn it, didn't they? Who cares what the KKK says about anything anyway, they aren't the government.
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Message 49 of 237 (774499)
12-18-2015 12:29 PM
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12-18-2015 12:24 PM


Well, golly gee, yes, we don't want people who are too different, or different in the wrong ways, we do want a coherent culture. What's wrong with that? It isn't because your family was "different," it was because they didn't speak English, something fairly easily rectified.
Yes I object to the KKK, not to the Conservative Party. You have a problem with that?

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Message 51 of 237 (774502)
12-18-2015 12:37 PM
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12-18-2015 12:32 PM


What's wrong is that we don't know beforehand which traits to arbitrarily pick and choose.
Sure we do, or we used to know. We want people who understand and will further the principles of a liberal democracy, and that is often half determined by where they come from.
I don't find it hard to distinguish between the conservatives and the KKK myself. And by the way, historically all the racist stuff in this country came from the Democrats.

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Message 59 of 237 (774533)
12-18-2015 6:59 PM
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12-18-2015 11:56 AM


I thought I was clear already that if they say they are Muslims you know they subscribe to a belief system that is declared in writing to be hostile to the American form of government. That's all you need to know.

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Message 60 of 237 (774534)
12-18-2015 7:02 PM
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12-18-2015 2:53 PM


The South is mostly Democrats, where are you getting all this stuff about Republicans becoming racist during the Civil Rights era?
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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Faith 
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Message 61 of 237 (774536)
12-18-2015 7:06 PM
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12-18-2015 5:14 PM


Having to swear to something is supposed to have enough of an impact on the conscience to prevent some people from lying. If they lie and are found out later on whatever the issue is I suppose it may have a use in a deportation hearing etc.

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Message 63 of 237 (774539)
12-18-2015 7:19 PM
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12-18-2015 7:11 PM


I see. You've read the Koran and the Hadiths?

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Faith 
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Message 65 of 237 (774542)
12-18-2015 7:49 PM
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12-18-2015 7:35 PM


I doubt you think I'm reading them selectively (and how would a command to kill the Jews wherever you find them be mitigated by not reading it selectively anyway?}. I don't think you know enough to think anything about it. It's just something you think must be true of me.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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Message 67 of 237 (774545)
12-18-2015 8:01 PM
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12-18-2015 7:59 PM


Re: Bearing False Witness
The era in question was the two or three decades preceding 1980. Does that trump it for you?

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Message 69 of 237 (774547)
12-18-2015 8:10 PM
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12-18-2015 8:02 PM


Well that's good at least. You admit to your baseless pure prejudice against me.
ABE: Which is nothing unusual, but being willing to flatly declare your prejudice and label me with it as if it were fact is rather underhanded don't you think?
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Message 72 of 237 (774551)
12-18-2015 8:55 PM
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12-18-2015 8:32 PM


Disagreeing with me is not the same thing as imposing your bias on me and treating your bias as the truth about me. That's underhanded.
I can say that my views are so different from EVERYBODY's at EvC -- well, almost everybody -- that it's hard to believe we share the same planet. However, there are lots of others who do think like me, they just have better sense than to hang out at a place like EvC.
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Message 74 of 237 (774555)
12-18-2015 9:20 PM
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12-18-2015 9:07 PM


Re: Bearing False Witness
My original point was that racism was originally a Democrat thing. I believe that still stands. although your history is quite interesting. It doesn't pertain to my point.

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