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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4451 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 5.5
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Mark McConnell, man driving Jeep before Ammon Bundy's arrest, was informant, testimony reveals
Deborah Jordan Caught the Malheur Takeover on Camera. Now Her Footage is At the Center of the Bundy Trial.What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4451 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 5.5
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Refuge trial: Rancher describes his view of the Malheur occupation
quote: Inviting wrath of judge may be part of a calculated approach by Ammon Bundy's lawyer quote: quote: First Malheur Occupier Sentenced To Probation quote: This isn't testimony from the trial, but an interesting study of how these nutjobs affected the community.
Bundys did damage in Burns as well as at refuge, UO prof says. quote: What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4451 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 5.5
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FBI sent two agents into Mormon church in Burns as part of refuge takeover investigation
quote: Defense warned to ‘get it together’ in Malheur trial quote: Judge inclined to dismiss firearms charge against defendant Shawna Cox quote: Ammon Bundy's lawyers file motion seeking halt to trial while appeals are pending quote: quote: What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy |
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4451 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 5.5
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When the Bundys first appeared on the news in Oregon we could see videos of them blatantly breaking numerous laws with seeming impunity.
their poster child leader, Ammon, claims it was just a peaceful protest and he has been treated unfairly and it hurts his feelings. At the time I thought they were providing plenty of evidence to hang themselves, but now I am not so sure that they will get the punishment the deserve. If they don't get lengthy prison sentences I am sure that we will see them commit more crimes. These jerks really believe that they are special and have the "right" to steal public land from the rest of us. If Trump is elected he and republican politicians will help them do it.
Ammon Bundy takes the stand in Oregon wildlife refuge standoff trial Prosecutor Cross-Examines Ammon Bundy For 15 Minutes Does Ammon Bundy's 10-hour testimony help or hurt his case in Oregon standoff trial? U.S. marshals end Ammon Bundy's contact visits with lawyers in courthouse over 'disrespect'What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy |
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ThinAirDesigns Member (Idle past 2404 days) Posts: 564 Joined:
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WOW!
JB
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4451 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 5.5
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I am speechless..............
What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1435 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined:
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I am speechless.............. I'm sure Donald will have something to say ... by our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8564 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.1
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Shocked!
Incredible! Surreal! But, that is the verdict of the jury in a US federal court and not only must such be accepted but must be respected. The seven are innocent of conspiracy.
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ThinAirDesigns Member (Idle past 2404 days) Posts: 564 Joined: |
Clearly a case of Jury nullification -- a principle that I respect (though I can't imagine I would have done such in this case).
JB
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1435 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined:
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Jury nullification
quote: Interesting, so the law is on trial rather than the defendants. Guess the got a jury of their peers. by our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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Frankly this is a very significant decision since it is a clear reflection of an attitude exemplified in Il Donald's candidacy and may portend a similar shock come November 9th.
There really is a large current today of folk that see the Government as the enemy and that support both the Bundys, Trump and the whole principle of direct opposition even when done by force.
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Diomedes Member Posts: 996 From: Central Florida, USA Joined:
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There really is a large current today of folk that see the Government as the enemy and that support both the Bundys, Trump and the whole principle of direct opposition even when done by force. Except that these hillbilly's and their knuckle-dragging supporters are also gigantic hypocrites. I would love to see how they would react if BlackLivesMatter performed an armed takeover of a Federal building. They would be screaming at the top of their lungs about 'terrorists' and the need to 'take them out'. So in their eyes, if you are white, Republican, and an NRA member, you should be allowed to perform armed resistance against government 'oppression'. But if anyone of color does it, well, they are terrorists. Makes me realize we took an incorrect approach during the Bush presidency. We shouldn't have been pushing a constitutional amendment against gay marriage. We should have created one that prevented brother and sister from marrying and creating a batch of inbred cretins.
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jar Member (Idle past 424 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Diomedes writes: So in their eyes, if you are white, Republican, and an NRA member, you should be allowed to perform armed resistance against government 'oppression'. But if anyone of color does it, well, they are terrorists. Correct. And a very common position particularly in the US. No Irish. No Jews. No blacks. No gays. No transgender. No queers. No retards. No Indians. No not like me.
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We shouldn't have been pushing a constitutional amendment against gay marriage. Lol!! We who? Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King I never considered a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend. Thomas Jefferson Seems to me if its clear that certain things that require ancient dates couldn't possibly be true, we are on our way to throwing out all those ancient dates on the basis of the actual evidence. -- Faith
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4451 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 5.5
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I'll bet the ones who plead guilty are pissed.
Sorry I have not been very active the last few weeks, work and an excruciating kidney infection have been limiting all my activities. Well, and I haven't had any snappy commentary in the face of this miscarriage of justice.What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy |
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