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Dredge Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
Theodorkic writes:
Exactly! Why would a scientific paper say Covid vaccines work bcoz of UCD? Why would a scientific paper say such a thing? It's physical realities that make vaccines work, not an idiotic story about how humans and potatoes evolved from the same organism.
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Dredge Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
What?
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Dredge Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
This is a joke, right? No one could be this dumb.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2 |
Nice deflection. Your dishonesty knows no bounds. Why do you think a scientific paper on COVID vaccines should mention UCD? Use actually coherent words and an attempt at a rational argument please.
Do you expect papers on stellar formation to include a defense of gravity? What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2 |
All of you claims come down to God did it.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2 |
Yet you are.
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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ringo Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Dredge writes:
Explain what is funny and/or dumb about what I said. This is a joke, right? No one could be this dumb.Come all of you cowboys all over this land, I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command: To hold a six shooter, and never to run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns. -- Woody Guthrie
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Dredge Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
ringoat writes:
You think me asking for a practical use for UCD in medical science or applied biology is the same as asking for evidence of UCD itself Message 1152. Explain what is funny and/or dumb about what I said. That's dumb ... they're nothing like the same thing.
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ringo Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Dredge writes:
Of course it is. How are they different? You think me asking for a practical use for UCD in medical science or applied biology is the same as asking for evidence of UCD itself.Come all of you cowboys all over this land, I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command: To hold a six shooter, and never to run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns. -- Woody Guthrie
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Dredge Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
WTF??? I'm beginning to understand why you flunked Elementary school ...
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xongsmith Member Posts: 2587 From: massachusetts US Joined: Member Rating: 6.4 |
Dredgings:
well,
WTF??? I'm beginning to understand why I flunked Elementary school ... fixed it for you. no need to thank me."I'm the Grim Reaper now, Mitch. Step aside." Death to #TzarVladimirtheCondemned! Enjoy every sandwich! - xongsmith, 5.7dawkins scale
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Dredge Member (Idle past 103 days) Posts: 2850 From: Australia Joined: |
dwise1 writes:
If I had to prove that a negative number multiplied by a negative number equals a positive number, for example, I wouldn't even know where to start.
The only time that one should need to go through all the proofs of mathematics is when you are learning mathematics.The fact of common ancestry of species and the resultant relationships between species because of that has already been established.
Thank you for this excellent example of mendacious Darwinist propaganda. It is a LIE to say that UCD has been "established" as a "fact". UCD is merely a theory, and it will never be anything more than a theory.That's why only a fool would trust what Darwinoids say ... they lie all the time. No further research is needed -- except for exploring certain specific relationships, but that would not be done within the field of medical research. We already know that, so we can just simply use it.
What advancement in the treatment of disease has resulted from the "use" of the theory of UCD?
That means that the lack of explicit reinventing the wheel of common descent of species in medical research papers is they have more important things to do
Ya got that right! UCD has no practical use in medical science, so only an idiot or a delusional Darwinoid would waste time on it.
in that paper than to spend many of pages (hundreds, even, to do a complete job of it) to rederiving something that we already know.
... except the only thing you "know" about UCD is that it's a theory.
However, if one could do scientific research to try to refute common ancestry. Or to show that it has no use in medical research. So why hasn't that been done yet?
That question is none of my business. My question is different: I want to know if the theory of UCD has provided a practical advancement in medical science or applied biology ... I haven't encountered one yet. That was AZPaul3's question to you. (Note: Delusional research hypotheses based on UCD don't count as practical advancements ... in anything.)
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9202 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2
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I love how the ignorant rubes come here spouting crap about subjects that they do not even grasp the basics of.
UCD is merely a theory, and it will never be anything more than a theory. Theories are based upon factual evidence. Extensive factual evidence. Hypothesis, theory, law - Google Docs
quote:Theories do not grow up to be laws. They are distinctly different things but are both based upon verifiable evidence. What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness. If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?
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xongsmith Member Posts: 2587 From: massachusetts US Joined: Member Rating: 6.4 |
Dredgings:
If I had to prove that a negative number multiplied by a negative number equals a positive number, for example, I wouldn't even know where to start. let me help. the -1 should be considered an Operator, as in (-1)* 6 = -6. the operator Reverses the sign of its operand: (-1)*6 -> reverse the sign of 6 -> -6 so then when you have (-6)*(-7), you write it (-1)*6 times (-1)*7, then arrange it (-1)*(-1)*6*7. then you have (-1)*(-1)*42 = (-1)*(-42). but the (-1) is an Operator that reverses the sign of what its operating on. so what is the reverse sign of -42?it is simple, it's +42. It is a LIE to say that UCD has been "established" as a "fact". I don't see where dwise1 claims it is a fact. it's just that millions of attempts to disprove it have failed, so the scientific Theory of Evolution has stood the test of time. scientific Theories are not claimed to be facts, just the best explanation we currently have for the facts. I'll ignore for now your Trumpian, childish insulting term "Darwinoid":
That's why only a fool would trust what Darwinoids say ... they lie all the time. this is a dishonest claim. cite one instance of a lie that is in the current Theory of Evolution.
My question is different: I want to know if the theory of UCD has provided a practical advancement in medical science or applied biology ... I haven't encountered one yet. you are still not seeing the rocket engine in the crew cabin of Apollo 11 because you think it would need to be in the cabin. the TRVTH is that every single advancement in medical science or applied biology uses the established concept of UCD. open your eyes. apparently you need to go back to elementary school and PAY ATTENTION!you are embarrassing yourself as a representative of the human species and should stop until you have learned better. "I'm the Grim Reaper now, Mitch. Step aside." Death to #TzarVladimirtheCondemned! Enjoy every sandwich! - xongsmith, 5.7dawkins scale
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ringo Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Dredge writes:
As usual, you understand nothing. And you lie about things you can not possibly know. I'm beginning to understand why you flunked Elementary school ...Come all of you cowboys all over this land, I'll teach you the law of the Ranger's Command: To hold a six shooter, and never to run As long as there's bullets in both of your guns. -- Woody Guthrie
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