Marriage is a civil right in the US

there are very many straight people that are utterly unqualified for marriage, that nonetheless are "allowed" to get married. the divorce rate alone should show this much.but i might even go so far as to say that no one is qualified for marriage, because experience is built the hard way, and it takes work and practice.

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should we outlaw marriage between sterile couples, as well?what if the man gets a vasectomy or the woman gets a hysterectomy, before having any children? should we force a divorce on them?what do we do with couples who's children have already left home? they have no need to be married anymore either.

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right, but if the heterosexuals are sterile, they do not have the potential for children, do they? i mean, by definition. sterile people are not capable of having children either.

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procreation is only possible to women prior to menopause. should we outlaw post-menopausal marriages for women? procreation is only possible for women before menopause -- that's what that whole monthly bleeding thing stands for.you can't have it both ways. either the ability to have children is important, or it isn't. if we're outlawing gay marriage because they can't have children, then other people who can't have children shouldn't be able to get married either. common sense tells the rest of us that two gay people getting married doesn't actually affect our marriages.common sense tells the rest of us that discriminating against a group like this is morally wrong, and that DOES affect the rest of us.

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why, because it's associating black people with homosexuality? or homosexuals with african americans?no, it's YOUR assertion that gays are abnormal, or abberant that is sick.

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i'm also fairly certain that there are a number of cultures that DO recognize gay marriage. didn't south africa just pass a law? there's also a central african tribe that weds adult men to young boys, and several native american tribes that wed two adult men.

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intolerance of another group is the definition of "bigotry" and "prejudice," actually. it's not a nice name, but intolerance isn't exactly nice either.

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Main Entry: big·ot
Pronunciation: 'bi-g&t
Function: noun

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: a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices

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A bigot is a prejudiced person who is intolerant of opinions, lifestyles or identities differing from his or her own.

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Discrimination - Wikipedia

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the term comes from "by god" and is used, specifically, for people who take religious objection to tolerating others.there can be no such thing as "politically correct bigotry" because it's an oxymoron. political correctness is (often overly extreme) toleration of other, bigotry is intolerance of others.

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yes, and it is you who is misusing them. because it's intolerant of those who refuse to tolerate others? i'm sorry, it doesn't work that way. we are not bigots for not tolerating bigots. when you feel that another group should not have the same rights you do, that's intolerance. it has everything to do with gays. otherwise, it wouldn't be about gay marriage. how about this. they are free to live as they please -- and that means YOU leave their right to get married alone. you can't say that they can make any kind of legal arrangements they choose, if you choose with whom they can make them.

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how exactly would it make a mockery of marriage?in a way that divorce does not?

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question.if one man has multiple wives, does the associative property apply? so if husband albert is married to wife betsy, and also married to wife cathy at the same time, aren't betsy and cathy also married? especially if they form a single family unit, and all live under one roof?

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explain it in specific, objective threats. will marriage not be taken as seriously, and the divorce rate go up? (why not outlaw divorce?) explain to me how gary and todd hypothetical's marriage specifically harms albert and betsy (and cathy)'s marriage? will they see two men walking down the street, and decide to get a divorce? you haven't explained why, specifically, sterile or infertile people are allowed to get married. they have no reason whatsoever for marriage except their own whims and feelings either. how does two gay people getting married trash an entire institution? and why do you think this particular institution holds society together? people do get divorced all the time, and very many people don't take marriage seriously. society hasn't collapsed yet. because, the point is that it doesn't actually do any personal harm to anyone. it doesn't adversely affect anyone's life, at all. and society won't fall apart anymore than when people get divorced -- in fact, if you've been paying attention, it turns out gay people have happier and more productive marriages on average than straight people. guess who values it more, and takes it more seriously? the people who are being denied it.

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there are many animals that practice homosexuality, and a few that even form lasting bonds between life-long mates of the same gender. there was a story recently about gay penguins...Edited by arachnophilia, : No reason given.

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is that normal? is oral between two straight people normal?i'm interested in which sexual practices you consider "normal."

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you think there is. he thinks there is not.(i would say it was you who just fell into a trap...)

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