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Topic: Cali Supreme Court ruling on legality of same-sex marriage ban
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bluescat48
Member (Idle past 4218 days) Posts: 2347 From: United States Joined: 10-06-2007
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Message 90 of 448 (467096)
05-19-2008 3:22 PM
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Reply to: Message 78 by Fosdick
05-19-2008 11:02 AM
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Re: Just take "marriage" out of the law
But I don't regard you as a bigot anymore than I regard myself as such. We're both realistic about homosexuality: it's an aberration of choice. Where is your proof that homosexuality is an "aberration of choice?" The last thing I heard is that there is no proof either that homosexuality is either chance or choice.
There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002 Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
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bluescat48
Member (Idle past 4218 days) Posts: 2347 From: United States Joined: 10-06-2007
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Message 131 of 448 (467328)
05-20-2008 10:40 PM
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Reply to: Message 129 by Taz
05-20-2008 9:34 PM
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Re: Just take "marriage" out of the law
As I have said many many times now, not all opinions are equal. Rahvin's opinion in this case is more valid than the opinions of your precious heartland people. Why? Because he's been able to support his opinion whereas these heartland people haven't been able to support their opinion. We still haven't heard a single response explaining why gay marriage would ruin straight marriage. Most likely because there is none.
There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002 Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
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bluescat48
Member (Idle past 4218 days) Posts: 2347 From: United States Joined: 10-06-2007
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Message 171 of 448 (467441)
05-21-2008 4:46 PM
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Reply to: Message 136 by Fosdick
05-21-2008 10:18 AM
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Re: Just take "marriage" out of the law
What? I've propose a level playing field for gays and striaghts regarding civil unions. If gays can't handle it then they're ones who need to explain why they are disadvantaged by taking the word "marriage" out of the law. What you and others are saying is that straight "marriage" somehow harms gays. No Taz was asking for someone to explain why gay marriage would ruin straight marriages. Edited by bluescat48, : spelling
There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002 Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
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bluescat48
Member (Idle past 4218 days) Posts: 2347 From: United States Joined: 10-06-2007
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Message 244 of 448 (467952)
05-25-2008 10:25 PM
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Reply to: Message 243 by Libmr2bs
05-25-2008 3:57 PM
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Re: Just take "marriage" out of the law
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For them to insist on changing the historical meaning of the word "marriage"”The Sacred Covenant”is a reverse form of bigotry.
Just like the change of the historical meaning of pedophile from child lover to child molester. or of fossil from anything dug out of the ground to only relects of former living things. Word meanings are not "etched in stone," they change according to the times.
There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002 Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
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bluescat48
Member (Idle past 4218 days) Posts: 2347 From: United States Joined: 10-06-2007
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Message 300 of 448 (468816)
06-01-2008 6:11 PM
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Reply to: Message 298 by Fosdick
06-01-2008 12:05 PM
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Re: Let 'em get "garried" [msg=-291]!
By doing so you reveal yourself as an ignorant bigot. But in what you are saying about Rrhain's statements you are revealing yourself as an ignorant bigot.
I call upon you are others contributing to this discussion who believe race and sexual orientation are equivalents in both biological and legal contexts to reexamine your assertions. For you to compare the struggle of minority races in this country, especially the ones who were enslaved, with the whimsy of homosexuals who assert their rights to “gay marriage” is a public embarrassment for you. Just because, at this time it is unknown whether sexual orientation is hereditary or not does not mean that it should be all right to discriminate against someone who is different in sexual orientation any more that it is alright to discriminate against one because of his race, creed, ethicity, social position, sex or any disability.
There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002 Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
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bluescat48
Member (Idle past 4218 days) Posts: 2347 From: United States Joined: 10-06-2007
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Message 317 of 448 (469301)
06-04-2008 11:55 PM
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Reply to: Message 316 by Fosdick
06-04-2008 7:54 PM
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Re: What about same-sex polygamy?
I'm afraid neither of you have been able to grasp the point here. You are comparing racial issues with sexual-orientation issues. It is a false and insulting comparison. DISCRIMINATION is DISRCIMINATION no matter who is being discriminated against. It doesn't matter whether it is racial, sexual, religious, ethnic, or any other classification real or imagined. Edited by bluescat48, : spelling
There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002 Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
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bluescat48
Member (Idle past 4218 days) Posts: 2347 From: United States Joined: 10-06-2007
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Message 335 of 448 (469622)
06-06-2008 2:05 PM
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Reply to: Message 333 by Fosdick
06-06-2008 12:24 PM
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Re: What about same-sex polygamy?
But where is the DISCRIMINATION if the law were to allow gays, as well as straights, to get civilly united, while making no reference to marriage, per se? So then change all marriage licenses to civil union licenses. They are not church documents but local government documents.
There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002 Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
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bluescat48
Member (Idle past 4218 days) Posts: 2347 From: United States Joined: 10-06-2007
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Message 337 of 448 (469641)
06-06-2008 4:11 PM
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Reply to: Message 336 by Fosdick
06-06-2008 3:03 PM
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Re: Church documents v. Government documents
As long as the rights & benefits are the same for both.
There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002 Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
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bluescat48
Member (Idle past 4218 days) Posts: 2347 From: United States Joined: 10-06-2007
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Message 345 of 448 (469698)
06-06-2008 9:58 PM
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Reply to: Message 336 by Fosdick
06-06-2008 3:03 PM
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Re: Church documents v. Government documents
If I follow you correctly, I agree. Let the churches decide who gets married, and let the government decide who gets civilly united. close. All are civil unions. Marriage, per your request, is a church entity. All these unions whether done in a church or not are sanctioned governmentally as civil unions with the same benefits to all. Edited by bluescat48, : punctuation & spelling
There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002 Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
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bluescat48
Member (Idle past 4218 days) Posts: 2347 From: United States Joined: 10-06-2007
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Message 389 of 448 (470119)
06-09-2008 3:34 PM
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Reply to: Message 388 by Fosdick
06-09-2008 2:40 PM
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Re: The comparison
What about the plight of heterosexual married people who feel their institution is threatened by the gay-power movement, which claims to be the successor of the black-power movement? Mr. and Mrs. Smith out in Iowa are very confused about such power movements, especially when they are told that any heterosexual-power movement would be a highly bigoted affair. Why would their institution be threatened. They would still be married under the law only the law would extend to previously denied couples. I still cannot see what the difference would be or why heterosexual couples would lose anything if homosexual couples could marry.
There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002 Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
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bluescat48
Member (Idle past 4218 days) Posts: 2347 From: United States Joined: 10-06-2007
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Re: Nuthin' but opinion
Really? Then you guys are saying that gays are the same basic thing as black people. No just treated the same way. Bigotry is the same no matter what group is being discriminated against solely buy perceived differences.
There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002 Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
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bluescat48
Member (Idle past 4218 days) Posts: 2347 From: United States Joined: 10-06-2007
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Message 419 of 448 (470323)
06-10-2008 5:05 PM
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Reply to: Message 418 by Fosdick
06-10-2008 4:35 PM
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Re: Nuthin' but opinion
I am against discrimination of any group, all humans are of the same species, superficial differences shouldn't matter, all should be equal.
There is no better love between 2 people than mutual respect for each other WT Young, 2002 Who gave anyone the authority to call me an authority on anything. WT Young, 1969
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