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Message 4 of 95 (193661)
03-23-2005 10:14 AM

Reply to: Message 1 by tsig
03-23-2005 5:40 AM

Morality is not a belief, but what we do each day.

Can I get a big Amen!

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Message 9 of 95 (193729)
03-23-2005 5:14 PM

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03-23-2005 4:30 PM

Re: Those things we do.

Or did the kid that went on a rampage in Minnesota watch Pat Boone videos every day?

I can see how that would drive someone to such a rampage.

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Message 21 of 95 (193954)
03-24-2005 6:36 AM

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03-24-2005 6:11 AM

If you can't decide what god you believe in then,...

You might know what GOD you believe in but have trouble deciding on a religion.

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Message 53 of 95 (196210)
04-02-2005 11:08 AM

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04-02-2005 2:59 AM

Re: be careful, phat...

1. I am a Christian

So am I. Texan too by GOD! I apologize for mentioning that last, I feel bad when I force others, even unconciously, to come to the realization they are NOT Texans.

2. A non-Christian (I prefer pre-Christian) can be of solid character and perform many righteous acts or good works; however, your good works will never get you to heaven. ...Blah blah blah ...

Nonsense. Not a subject for this thread but I'll be happy to once again discuss why that's totally false in yet another thread on yet again that same worn topic.

Points 3,4 & 5 are but more of the same.

There is nothing that says an Atheist is immoral. They don't believe in Heaven or Hell so even bring such things up is pointless.

However, unlike many Christians, most Atheists are truly committed to reason and evidence. If they were shown absolute proof of the existence of GOD by coming face to face with the evidence, GOD herself, they would immediately admit their error and change their belief.

That is in stark contrast to so many Christians who when faced with proof that the Bible is NOT to be taken literally, take their fingers out of their collective butts and stick them in their collective ears.

In that major regard Atheists generally are far more honest than Christians.

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Message 55 of 95 (196231)
04-02-2005 2:09 PM

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04-02-2005 1:55 PM

Salvation, proof and morality.

I am assuming you were replying to my use of "pre-Christian." That should have been left out. I was trying to convey a sense of my hopefulness for others, but I don't think it came across and was extraneous.

Nope, that wasn't what I was refering to at all. I simply think it's far more likely that the average Atheist will be saved and go to heaven than the average Christian.

Really? Can you support this with evidence, your personal experience and generalizations aside?

That they are more committed to reason? Certainly. Show me an Atheistic YEC?

Do you believe that it is possible to compile absolute proof as to the existence or non-existence of God? If not, do you believe that this is an appropriate example to support your prior assertion?

Only once, when you die. Either the IPU will greet you or not. But if an Atheist died and was greeted by the IPU, he or she would certain accept the fact of existence of the IPU.

Please, point me in the direction of this proof. I would like to read it.

That's not an appropriate subject for this thread but this board is filled with discussions on just that subject. Please come join one and be informed. Or if you want the short course, read Genesis and Exodus for more than sufficient proof.

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Message 57 of 95 (196238)
04-02-2005 2:44 PM

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04-02-2005 2:28 PM

Re: Salvation, proof and morality.

I didn't ask to begin a discussion on the topic. I only requested that you point out to me where I can find this proof, but instead of providing the requested information you pointed me to Genesis and Exodus.

I think that you should examine your use of the word "proof."

LOL

Well come on over to one of the discussions for additional proof but Genesis and Exodus are certainly proof enough.

Start in "The Bible: Accuracy and Inerrancy" and in "Faith and Belief" then wander down to "Geology and the Great Flood". Love to have you join us there.

I'll ask yet again. Where is your proof?

The fact that there are no Atheistic YECs IS proof.

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