On the verge of a break-through

riverrat writes

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I am going to have to disagree. I can say with authority, that the God I believe in has changed my temper, in a big way. I have many witnesses who will agree.

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I am sitting here having fun thinking up of scenarios of what your witnesses would say..."A big guy with long white beard appeared, waved his magic wand, and poof riverrat no longer yelled at us.""One day, as riverrat was losing his temper over a lost penny, a nearby bush started to burn and WOW riverrat got over his lost penny!""Riverrat was smashing my stuff because I told him I was gay and that I had a slight attraction to him, but then a dove flew into my house and riverrat started apologizing for having damaged my possessions.""Up until last summer, my husband was beating me almost every night for not loving him enough. I always knew that it was my fault. I just needed to love him more. But one night last summer, he came home from work and started asking me how my day was. He then proceeded to tell me how his day went. As I was getting ready for my well deserved beating, my husband told me that he loved me and wanted to make love to me. The lord had finally gave me enough love to give to my husband. Praise be to God in the highest!"But in all seriousness, I said that I believe that your temper doesn't change. What I suspect happened with your case is you developed more self-control. The temper is still there, but you have found a way to cage it.

Ok, no humor this time.riverrat writes

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The real issues will still exist, and I have no trouble seeing right through it all.

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What would the real issues be?

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However, I still don't feel your being honest with us.

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Honest about what, the children part or the gay marriage part?

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From what you've told us, you've done a lot of changing, so all of a sudden your into absolutes?

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If anything, I've moved as far away from absolutes as I can.

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Or are you just a liar?

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I'll think about this one.

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I am calling you on it.

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See, that's just it. What are you calling me on? Is it the gay marriage issue or the children part? Or is it the temper part?The temper part is just my opinion. The children part is my vow. The gay marriage part is my plagarizing.

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Of course you would suspect that, since you can't possibly see a way for your own temper to change. Maybe your just too mad at the world. But by the same token, maybe your on your first step of being released from your temper, by admitting you can't change.

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Riverrat, what we have here are two people (you and me) sharing our own opinions on a subject, in this case whether a person's temper can change or not. There is no reason for you lose your temper over this.

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I said it changed, I didn't say it went away. It has dimished by 90% or better. It is not caged.

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I've talked to many people about this issue. From what I have gathered, the best way to be able to tell whether it's changed or it's only be caged in is whether you have those very rare very short but intense outbursts. These outbursts can include a sudden jerking movement, a sudden high screetched noise called yelling, or a sudden maddening of your personality.

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In the blink of an eye, God showed me some cool stuff. I have gone into it detail in this forum. When revelation hits you like that, then you are released from the very things that make you angry. You also realize that it's just not worth it. Having a temper is locking yourself in your own prison so to speak. I couldn't see that until God showed it to me. With each person I am angry at, I place another bar in my prison. By releasaing my anger to God, and allowing Him to deal with it, has led me to witness some miraculous things.

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There are 9 gifts associated with the Holy Spirit. One of them is wisdom. In the blink of an eye you can become instantly wiser. Only fools let their temper control them, then sin in their anger. I am still guilty of it, but not to the extent I was before. I guess God still has a few more things to do to me, since I can't seem to do it myself.

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It is not that I don't believe you. It is that I doubt what you experienced were real. But don't mind me, if a spiritual event(s) changed you for the better, I commend you.

riverrat writes

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Then you can change.

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Rat, there are certain things in the world that we can change and there are things that we can't. For example, your fingerprints, blood type, and brainwave pattern.

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Now it is. The thing is, I don't feel what used to drive me to that point anymore.

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So, it's still there.

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I realized what was causing most of it, and why I acted the way I did. In the snap of a finger, that happened for me. I know people that can go to therapy for years, and never have progress like that.

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Not that I doubt you, but...

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That is why knowing people like you is so important. To actually make sure it is for the better. I am still just like you, just tweaked from my old self.

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Do you want to impale people? Do you want to skin people alive? If not, you are not like me