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PaulK
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Message 107 of 160 (415623)
08-11-2007 6:24 AM
Reply to: Message 92 by Buzsaw
08-10-2007 8:35 PM


Re: Buzsaw's Two Bits.
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Example #1. I know I'll get flack on this but nevertheless I have always viewed it as hypocritical science and likely always will. From what I read of brother ICANT, likely he is with me on this. On the one hand mainline secularist science disallows any hint of the supernatural into the science agenda until the supernatural can be verified. On the otherhand mainline secularist science which bases much of it's agenda on the observable thermodynamic laws rests on the alleged fact that the universe, energy and space/time is temporal (about 15 billion years last I heard), having no before and no outside of without verification.
This sums up to "scientists don't worship ignorance". Maybe you want to abandon the germ theory of disease and modern meteorology in favour of old superstitions but science has advanced by rejecting supernatural beliefs.
Science does not base it's "agenda" on the laws of thermodynamics. Nor does it base its ideas on a finite age for the universe - these are conclusions, not assumptions. And the 2nd law of thermodynamics argues AGAINST an infinite past.
SO really this is a simple whine about the fact that scientists DARE to disagree with the great Buzsaw.
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Example #2. On the one hand, the FDA, in the power & $$ bed with the pharmaceuticals, hospitals & mainline medical practitioners, is ever so fussy about relatively minor problems with the herbals, vitamin & mineral alternative health agenda, disallowing pretty much any claims to advocating as treatment. On the other hand, several hundred thousand deaths and who knows how much suffering is tolerated in the billions of $$ pharmaceutical driven conventional health agenda blessing them along with all the devastating side effects with all the claim for effective treatments of the given ailments. Compared to the hundreds of thousands of deaths & likely millions of side effect complications, the alternative wholistic health practitioners and the products are the cause of nearly no deaths and relatively few side effects, nearly all side effects being good for the user or patient.
This is agreat example of YOUR hypocrisy. The FDA strictly regulate the parmaceutical industy costing the pharmaceutical companies a great deal of money. They want to extend that to other areas (which are riddled with fake remedies, and even dangeorus drugs). So FDA regulation is supposedly "bad" because it is too lax on the pharmaceutical companies - but you don't want any regulation at all on your favoured industry. The fakes and the frauds antd the poisoners should be allowed to go on stealing money.

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