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redstang281
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Message 76 of 108 (845)
12-17-2001 12:19 PM
Reply to: Message 73 by joz
12-17-2001 10:30 AM


quote:
Originally posted by joz:
No I dont mean mistakes....(an explanation is in order I am not aware of any part of the bible that says getting a math problem incorrect is a sin... So I dont mean mistakes I mean sinning)....
Secondly you only attempted to address one side of my argument. Please address the argument in its complete form....
[This message has been edited by joz, 12-17-2001]

A mistake is accidently doing something you didn't mean to do. God has a very long, very complicated list of laws. So if you try your whole life not to break one of the laws you are bond to make a mistake.
greed, pride, lust, etc... all sins.
There's really nothing to argue here. If you really want to understand the bible maybe you should start by reading it and going to church.

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redstang281
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Message 80 of 108 (878)
12-18-2001 7:28 AM
Reply to: Message 77 by joz
12-17-2001 1:43 PM


[b] [QUOTE] I argued that either it is not impossible but improbable not to sin OR we have no free will in the theologically important area of committing sin or not...
Answer the argument please....
[/b][/QUOTE]
I have answered it many, many, many times, and very understandibly.
But if you want to look at it another way the Lord can see into the future so he knows what we're going to do in our life. However, because he knows what we're going to do, doesn't mean he makes us do it.

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redstang281
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Message 81 of 108 (879)
12-18-2001 7:37 AM
Reply to: Message 78 by nator
12-18-2001 1:41 AM


[b] [QUOTE] God DOES contol evil and bring evil upon people, according to the Bible, sometimes just to win a bet with Satan, as in the story of Job. What a nice guy, that God, torturing and bringing misery upon his best servant, Job, just to win a bet! What a user! God really IS male, isn't He?
[/b][/QUOTE]
Our sin has brought the evil into the world. God allows evil to punish us for our sins.

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