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doctrbill Member (Idle past 2795 days) Posts: 1174 From: Eugene, Oregon, USA Joined: |
DC85 writes:
My dog had this cute bitch running around with him for months. He was humping her a lot, so I wondered why she never got pregnant. Then one day I happened to be in a position to notice that the little bitch had a set of balls. ... you don't see Homosexuality in other animals ... Wanna hear about the cat that gave head to dogs? db ------------------Doesn't anyone graduate Sunday School?
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1498 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
Personally I don't see how homosexuality is Possible your Brain can not be in the wrong type of Body. Because its not your brain that makes you feel that way its the chemicals in your body. how can a male possibly have Female ones if they are a male? Because sexuality isn't this simple. Homosexuality isn't a condition of having a female brain in a man's body (or vice-versa) - otherwise, don't you think all gay men would be cross-dressers? (They're not.) A gay man isn't a woman in a man's body, he's a man who is sexually attracted to men. The most interesting thing is, human sexuality is a continumm, not a bivalent quality. There's a range of states between full-on gay and religiously straight. I'm sure one of us here can reccomend a good book on human sexuality, or I could ask one of my gender-studies friends if you're really interested.
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mark24 Member (Idle past 5226 days) Posts: 3857 From: UK Joined: |
Crash,
I think you are partly right, most heterosexuals/homesexuals/lesbians are exactly that, they are polar in that they are attracted to one sex or the other. Bisexuality on the other hand, the continuum you mention, is much more in the minority. Mark ------------------Occam's razor is not for shaving with.
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Asgara Member (Idle past 2333 days) Posts: 1783 From: Wisconsin, USA Joined: |
Hi DC,
The chemicals in your body during gestation are responsible for how your brain ends up hardwired. Depending on the hormone concentration present in the mother during pregnancy, the baby's brain can be wired in any number of ways. A very good book that discusses this is Brain Sex by Anne Moir and David Jessel. If you can't find the book here is a short synopsis of parts of the book. The sexuality spectrum runs from extremely masculine males through extremely feminine females, with everything in between. As for non-human animals, there are numerous cases of homosexual or bi-sexual behavior in the animal kingdom. One article discussing this can be found here. Differing sexual behavior is found in domestic and wild animals such as Japanese macaques, domestic and wild sheep, and various penquin populations, just to mention a few. Read some of Jane Goodall's work with chimpanzees. Biologist Bruce Bagemihl has written a book about this, Biological Exuberance. Tomorrow night (July 28) National Geographic is suppose to air a program called Out In Nature http://www.rnw.nl/lifestyle/html/gayanimals000808.html ------------------Asgara "An unexamined life is not worth living" Socrates via Plato
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1498 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
I think you are partly right, most heterosexuals/homesexuals/lesbians are exactly that, they are polar in that they are attracted to one sex or the other. Bisexuality on the other hand, the continuum you mention, is much more in the minority. To the contrary; the studies show that most people inhabit somewhere within the two extremes - it's very rare for a person to be absolutely straight or absolutely gay. There's more in the middle than just bisexuality. For instance, heterosexual with incidental homosexual behavior. Or persons with a limited sexual attraction to the occasional person of opposite gender as they usually go for. Now, what we'll admit to being attracted to is a different matter. But behaviorally most people inhabit one end or the other of the gray area.
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DC85 Member Posts: 876 From: Richmond, Virginia USA Joined: |
thanks guys I will read the book to understand better.... because I don't want to down people that are I just don't understand how so I am very uncomfortable because I am wondering "how?" all the time. I will read up on it Because sometimes I sway away from people it makes them think I don't like them for it when thats not the case.
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1498 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
I just don't understand how so I am very uncomfortable because I am wondering "how?" all the time. What's not to understand about gay people? Sexual preference is just that, a preference, like your favorite flavor of ice cream, for instance. I like mint ice cream. Gay men like penises. What's so complicated about that?
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Rrhain Member Posts: 6351 From: San Diego, CA, USA Joined: |
DC85 writes:
quote: Um...if you have to use the word "but," then you're criticizing.
quote: Why? You certainly hope that somebody of a certain sex finds your sex attractive, yes? Then what is so bizarre with someone of the other sex also finding it attractive? Only females can find males sexy? Only males can find females sexy?
quote: Um, you've just confused transgender with homosexuality. Gay men don't want to be women. They don't think they are women. Gay women don't want to be men. They don't think they are men. They are men and women who identify as men and women, respectively, and want to have sex with their own sex.
quote: How can you separate the brain from its neurotransmitters? A neuron cannot interact with any other neuron without the release of neurotransmitters. If your neurotransmitters are released making you aroused when you see someone of your own sex, it's your brain that is responding because those neurotransmitters are part of your brain.
quote: You seem to think that a male who is gay has excess estrogen or that a female who is gay has excess testosterone. This isn't true. By the way, males do produce estrogen in the adrenal glands. Too, testosterone is converted into the female hormone estradiol in the brain. It's part of the hormone regulation system. The same FH/LSH cycle in women happens in men, too, but rather than the estrogen being the trigger, the testosterone has to get converted into a form that the brain recognizes...and it happens to be the female hormone, estradiol.
quote: Oh, you most certainly do. In fact, homosexuality has been seen in pretty much every mammalian species and many non-mammalian species, too. I highly recommend Biological Exuberance: Animal Homosexuality and Natural Diversity by Bruce Bagemihl. It has an exhaustive list of the species in which homosexual activity has been seen and the book, itself, describes how it appears. In some species, members of the same sex often pair-bond for life, just like their heterosexual counterparts. There's a very nice point in the book:
Astounding as it sounds, a number of scientists have actually argued that when a female Bonobo wraps her legs around another female ... while emitting screams of enjoyment, this is actually "greeting" behavior, or "appeasement" behavior ... almost anything, it seems, besides pleasurable sexual behavior. quote: So why the attitude? Even if we were to assume that only humans are gay, why is that problematic? Humans do not behave like dogs even though dogs are also animals. Dogs don't behave like cats. Cats don't behave like birds. Birds don't behave like fish. Fish don't behave like insects. Why should humans behave like other animals?
quote: What's not to understand? ------------------Rrhain WWJD? JWRTFM!
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Dan Carroll Inactive Member |
Astounding as it sounds, a number of scientists have actually argued that when a female Bonobo wraps her legs around another female ... while emitting screams of enjoyment, this is actually "greeting" behavior, or "appeasement" behavior ... almost anything, it seems, besides pleasurable sexual behavior. I wish women would greet me that way. Human women, that is.
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NosyNed Member Posts: 9004 From: Canada Joined: |
Fussy, aren't you?
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Mammuthus Member (Idle past 6506 days) Posts: 3085 From: Munich, Germany Joined: |
careful what you wish for
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zephyr Member (Idle past 4581 days) Posts: 821 From: FOB Taji, Iraq Joined: |
quote:Just wander around Bourbon Street late at night, and eventually something like that will happen. =O Just a matter of time.
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MrHambre Member (Idle past 1424 days) Posts: 1495 From: Framingham, MA, USA Joined: |
quote:I see a new Ben & Jerry's flavor in the works. ------------------En la tierra de ciegos, el tuerco es el Rey.
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Dan Carroll Inactive Member |
"Benjamin is nobody's friend. If he were an ice cream flavor, he'd be pralenes and dick." - Dana Carvey
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DC85 Member Posts: 876 From: Richmond, Virginia USA Joined: |
was that post really needed? I already admited I need to learn more and that I am wrong(not the exact word "wrong" but if you can't figure it out well...) Once the Person does that there is no reason to go further and Repeat what others in the topic have already said Unless the person doesn't Understand what was said. thank you for your time though...............
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