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johnfolton 
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Message 9 of 49 (145697)
09-29-2004 2:40 PM


Evolutionists Dating Methods Intellectually Dishonest
How does one honestly believe the Evolutionists are being Intellectually honest, their theory (TOE)rests on the dating of the fossil imprint, fossils, by the sediment layers that entombed them (based on what), etc...
Answer: the evolutionists believe by faith that the fossil is as old as the sediments that entombed them, because a fossil imprint has no C14 they had the need to make this leap of faith that the imprint is as old as the sediments that imprinted the fossil, they really are not dating the fossil imprint, fossil, etc...
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Message 14 of 49 (145716)
09-29-2004 3:16 PM
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09-29-2004 2:48 PM


Evolutionists Dating Methods Intellectually Dishonest
Rei, How do you date a fossil imprint, if nothing remains but the imprint, or the bones that has no C14 remaining within the bones, what other dating method do they use to date bones, etc...
P.S. Granted life grows from the sediments, but that does not mean the fossils entombed are the age of the substances they grew from, is not that why they date rocks by other atomic decay methodologies, and organic life by C14, proven by Andrew Snelling with a petrified wood sample sandwiched between two basalt lava outflow layers that the organic life dated between dated thousands of years while the basalt layers above and below, dated millions of years old (meaning the petrified organic wood fossil could not be both young and old)(creationists realize the basalt dating is a bogus way of dating fossils as Snelling proved), but the Evolutionists continue to date the fossil by the various sediment, lava rock and not the fossils, which is Intellectually Dishonest, etc...
The way I understand the shell fish eating was that it was considered an unclean creature, which we now know to be true, causing birth defects(heavy metal accumulator's), etc...
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Message 21 of 49 (145729)
09-29-2004 3:50 PM
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09-29-2004 3:23 PM


The bible is not being Intellectually dishonest
The way I understood it, Holistic people, say the shell fish have a different excretory system, and people when eating shell fish accumulate these heavy metals into their being, displacing beneficial elements, though agree its worse now with all the pollution, it doesn't mean it was not a problem before pollution, cause of the creatures excretory system(why I believe the bible called it an abomination because God was protecting the seed of Issac from mutations)(why in part the Gentiles were considered unclean)(and the Jews were considered clean)(all their geneologies), and people eating shell fish accumulate what the accumulators (shellfish) accumulated, etc...
P.S. Are not a whole lot of the unclean creatures unclean that eat the shell fish, its not inconsistency, but makes sense, if you don't want children that have mutations, too me was why in part the bible talked of the clean and unclean creatures, only God could of known the hazards of the elements unseen that cause mutations, and record the clean and unclean creatures, and if eating them is known to increase abominable mutations, wouldn't it be confirming the uncleaness of the shell fish, etc...
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Message 39 of 49 (145850)
09-29-2004 11:02 PM
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09-29-2004 7:34 PM


The dating controversy has been deemed off topic (Intellectual Dishonesty), though Intellectual dishonesty exists in the main stream scientific journals too, that is not giving Creationisms the time of day, cause it conflicts with federal grant money's, tenure, promotions, etc...
How is Snelling going to get his articles posted in scientific journals, when its politically incorrect to promote lifes origins from the Christian persuasion, TJ never meant for the infidel to have greater freedoms of expression than has the Religion of Jesus Christ, etc...
Didn't Thomas Jefferson infer that the infidels should be given the same protections as the Christian Religion, separation protections from church and state, Why would TJ do this, is it not obvious that the infidels of all denominations, (atheists, buddists, Hindu, etc...) were to have no greater rights than the Christian Religions, like for example to have more rights to teach evolution from a godless perspective in the public schools, than the Christian has to teach Creation from the God based perspective, truly its time to replace TOE with ID, or at least share equally the federal grants to both the Snellings of the World, and the Evolutionists of the World, its not fair to give the infidel the federal money's cause that violates the separation of church and state that Jefferson inferred would be included to the infidels, meaning equal funding should be included to teach creation from the God based perspective, the infidel was not suppose to have greater powers than the different religions, this was what Thomas Jefferson reason for saying the separation protections include the infidel, etc...
This is what freedom in America is suppose to be about, tolerance, why MUSLIMS will vote for GWB because of their fear of Sharia law, the love of the Immigrant for the freedoms to believe whatever they believe, but not to allow one group to beable to force their beliefs upon our children, which is what has happened in the Theory of Evolution, and with my Tax dollars, lets tighten the belt, and stop giving the infidels federal tax moneys to infer their godless denomination or religion of Secular humanisms upon our children, they were not suppose to have greater rights than the religion of Jesus Christ, etc... The religion of Jesus Christ was to be protected by Congress according to George Washington, not to be supplanted by the infidels, its truly time to weed out the federal funding that promotes the infidels belief that lifes origin happened without God, without letting the other religions an equal playing field, to teach that God is responsible for origin, it clearly seem to be violating the infidel powers as suggested by Thomas Jefferson protections of separations of church and State freedoms which would include the godless religion of secular humanism that preaches TOE, and by promoting a godless origin, promoting the belief of atheism (an infidel)is violating the infidels protection of separation from the government, etc...When Tj included the infidel it was understood the infidels were not suppose to be granted more freedom, than the Religion of Jesus Christ, but the activist judges have incorrectly allowed this travisty to continue(Intellectual Dishonesty), etc....
"[When] the [Virginia] bill for establishing religious freedom... was finally passed,... a singular proposition proved that its protection of opinion was meant to be universal. Where the preamble declares that coercion is a departure from the plan of the holy author of our religion, an amendment was proposed, by inserting the word "Jesus Christ," so that it should read "a departure from the plan of Jesus Christ, the holy author of our religion." The insertion was rejected by a great majority, in proof that they meant to comprehend within the mantle of its protection the Jew and the Gentile, the Christian and Mahometan, the Hindoo and infidel of every denomination." --Thomas Jefferson: Autobiography, 1821. ME 1:67
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Message 44 of 49 (146134)
09-30-2004 2:54 PM
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09-30-2004 9:30 AM


Media Bias, a sign of our times, the immoral get out of jail free card, etc...
You see more examples of intellectual dihonesty, like if the media were being fair, they would of been plastering Mr. Kerry for not releasing his complete naval medical and military records, this is intellectual dishonesty, to favor one candidate over the other.
P.S. If Martha Stewart was thrown in jail for what you call being Intellectually Dishonest, then Dan Rather should be thrown in jail too, for unfairly presenting false papers accusing GWB, instead Martha is serving time, and Dan Rather is given a get out of jail card, its all examples of Intellectual Dishonesty. You'd think the media should be held to a higher standard, instead they show they are intellectually dishonest. Mr. Kerry is another example of being intellectually dishonest, a lawyer, knowing the law, yet violating federal law in the taking of a salary, for time not present in the Senate. If he was to be intellectually honest, he would not be violating the laws that if he becomes president he would be sworn to uphold. The activist judges are not being honest in their interpretations of the Constitution, and were seeing the fruits of this in Mr. Kerry, who rather than step down from the Senate, or to simply not accept a salary that by the laws of the land he is not really entitled to, he instead takes the money, proving he is not being intellectually honest to the people that elected him to serve them with his presense in the Senate.
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Message 47 of 49 (146357)
09-30-2004 9:43 PM


Kerry Intellectually Dishonest violated the Fourteenth Amendment
If anyone of you actually believe in supporting the Constitution of the United States, then you realize the Fourteenth Amendment, Section 3 states that Kerry has no right to be a senator, much less the President of the United States of America, Intellectually if your being honest with ones self, you'd have to be a hypocrite to vote for Mr. Kerry, in respect to the fourteenth amendment, etc...
http://www.warriorsfortruth.com/...rry-sedition-treason.html
The Constitution's Fourteenth Amendment, Section 3, states, "No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President ... having previously taken an oath to support the Constitution of the United States, [who has] engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof."
P.S. If Dan Rather wants a good story, he should pursue Kerry's Complete Military / Medical Naval Records, and ask for his FBI file to be released.
http://www.warriorsfortruth.com/kerry-military-records.html
Its quite obvious why Mr. Kerry still refuses to release his complete past, truly he is being Intellectually Dishonest to the American people, Mr. Kerry's double speak is not helping gain crediblity in the eyes of the American people, that he is capable of being Intellectually Honest about any issue, including his past, there is what Kerry says and there is what Kerry does(Intellectual Dishonesty (JFK) is applying for the highest office of the land), If you want to be honest Intellectually with ones self, you can only vote for the man, and that man is GWB, etc...
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