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Most sane creationists claim that the continents split during the Great Flood.
so may I ask this:
can you demonstrate that it would be possible for the Atlantic to spread at a rate of 1/2 mile per hour?
In this case I agree with the evolutionists regarding rapid plate tectonics as being a farce. I want to make it clear that this list of problems with Catastrophic Plate Tectonics is not meant to be construed as being disrespectful toward Creation scientists or scientists at large. Rather, my intentions are to simply point out the major problems with the theory, as well as to stress that scientists need to strictly adhere to known scientific evidence with regards to geological features and their architecture as well as the known mechanisms behind their formations. This must come first before implementing a global Flood theory.
Problems with Catastrophic Plate Tectonics:
1. A Flood mechanism MUST be supported by Scripture. The Scriptures do not support continental drift, moreover rapid continental drift as a Flood mechanism. There are also several other aspects of Scripture the theory completely ignores including the subterranean hydro-system that was in place prior to the Flood. Also, the existence of the Euphrates and Tigris rivers as being in known geographical locations does not support a continental drift model (yes, their courses most likely changed due to the Flood).
2. Plate Tectonics in its irrelevant mm/yr creeping evolutionary form does not work and is plagued with inherent problems that scientists cannot resolve with the theory. Therefore if plate tectonics does not work in its evolutionary form, how can it be ‘adopted’ as a Flood mechanism? It simply can’t.
3. ‘Speeding up’ plate tectonic ‘motion’ is even a worse scenario. Sea floor spreading and subduction are scientific myths along with continental drift to begin with. Creation scientists are entirely off track for even attempting to adopt the theory as a Flood model. By doing such, ALL aquatic life was destroyed due to the tremendous heat given off with a ‘rapid’ scenario as the oceans would have boiled. Obviously aquatic life survived the event, while of course much of it was destroyed as is evident with the plethora of marine fossils. Moreover, when magma hits water, it is quickly quenched and in many cases explodes into sand, therefore concluding that a ‘sea floor spreading’ mechanism via massive upwelling of magma is scientifically improbable and far-fetched.
4. Catastrophic Plate Tectonics will have a very, very difficult time explaining terrestrial formations that are not attributed to ‘plate tectonic movement’ (in which the observed movement is nil, so none are the result of ‘plate’ tectonics). Examples include large igneous masses/provinces, super volcanic eruptions, canyon formations, mountain chains, etc. A true Flood model must address ALL formations as the face of the earth was completely altered. The theory is simply for the sake of theory thus beginning with a theoretical thought process rather than beginning with true evidence and thorough examination of HOW terrestrial (and submarine) features are truly formed.
5. Catastrophic Plate Tectonics will also have a very, very difficult time explaining the formations of seas such as the Med., Sea of Japan, Gulf of Mexico, Caribbean Sea, etc. Again, scientists need to address geomorphology as primary for a Flood mechanism rather than secondary.
6. Scaling laws are ignored. In other words continental drift is impossible due to the fact that at a global scale a continent is merely a congealed pile of sand or better yet dust. Massive movement on a global scale would result in ALL land crumbling and we would end up with one giant ocean after this event. In effect, we would have liquefaction on a mega scale.
7. Catastrophic Plate Tectonics is another example of how earth scientists, as well as science at large are simply ‘hooked’ and even addicted to the plate tectonic theory and are unable to come up with a true scientific methodology of ‘what truly happened’ due to this mental block. The theory has been so engrained into science that it has unfortunately hampered forward thinking.
8. Catastrophic plate tectonics (as well as evolutionary plate tectonics) ignores the fact that there are huge masses of submerged continental rocks in the Pacific and Indian Oceans. Moreover all of the volcanic islands and atolls in all oceans. The PT theory, in any form, assumes total subdution of oceanic lithosphere. This is preposterous and given the existence of these formations, ‘subduction’ is impossible. The FACT is that these oceans are geological wrecks. Again, careful scrutiny of oceanic bathymetry must take place.
9. Catastrophic plate tectonics ignores fault formations that are currently observed. Horizontal movement of the ocean lithosphere, especially rapid, simply does not correlate with known fault formations. Moreover, when there IS fault movement, land collapses, i.e. a de-tectonic event.
10. We know very little about mantle dynamics. Seismic waves do not give us a complete picture of what is taking place in the mantle and it is very complex. Therefore any ‘model’ that is based on mantle dynamics is very speculative and will inherently be swayed to support the theory. This is not true science at all and is another example of how ‘run away theories’ get the best of scientists and will eventually end up in a scientific ‘thought’ disaster.
11. Catastrophic Plate Tectonics ignores THE most powerful force of nature: phreatomagmatic explosions as well as the results. This goes back to my point #1. (Note: I use the word ‘nature’ for the sake of clarity in literature. ALL ‘nature’ was created by God and obeys God).
12. Catastrophic Plate Tectonics (as well as evolutionary plate tectonics), is a giant misnomer. The literal translation is demolition flat builder. Think about it. The Flood was a global destructive event, yet the word tectonic is used, or rather misused. Nothing was ‘built’. Rather, land was destroyed in mass. The word ‘plate’ is also misused in earth science but unfortunately has been adopted and engrained in scientific literature/works (sections of the earth are truly convex, not flat as the word plate alludes). Also see point #6 as a continent cannot move as a ‘plate’. The word catastrophic is 100% correct as a description of as Flood mechanism.
Catastrophic Plate Tectonics as well as evolutionary plate tectonics both need to be scrapped in their entirety. Earth scientists, no matter what their stance is on Creation or Evolution, are not doing anyone a respectable/responsible service by holding onto the PT theory. True science must be observable, testable and repeatable. I have already elaborated on this in some of my other posts and again will stress the need for scientists to carefully examine any theory with MUCH scrutiny prior to releasing it to the general public, or at least be very clear on the fact that these are hypothesis, and are not to be construed as scientific facts (i.e. science needs to implement disclaimers, this should become LAW). Otherwise, simply stick to the facts. Anything else is wholly unprofessional and a disservice to everyone, including science.
SCRIPTURE supports mass rising of land and mass destruction of land - vertically.
SCIENCE supports mass rising of land and mass destruction of land - vertically.
SCRIPTURE supports rapid or ‘event’ formation of geological features.
SCIENCE supports rapid or ‘event’ formation of geological features.
Once scientists closely examine geological features in the light of the Scriptures and known scientific mechanisms, the evidence for the Flood/destruction of the face of the Earth, is absolutely profound and cannot be denied. Of course, those who do not believe in God, His Word and reject the Lord Jesus Christ as God’s ONE and ONLY Son given as a ransom on our behalf, for ALL have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God, will also inevitably reject any and all blatant scientific and historical evidence of the Great Flood of Noah. And this is an unnecessary tragedy to take to one’s death.
Thanks
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