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evolution does not prove God isn't. because God is only Say's that evolution is a "how" of the design.i like Percy. i wouldn't consider him a staunch atheist, I'd say he is a patient man, requiring data for conclusion. more or less he'd prob say : "i don't know." if I'm wrong, then I'm wrong. but that is what i believe from his posts.I'm a creationist. I'm a christian. (now) but before debating here, i was more like Percy. wanting to believe some things, but requiring data. i had observed data, and tested it here, and found the truth. i found it by asking : what is the truth?the advice i would give to our poster:there are ton's of different types of "creationists" the reason why is because of the way they interpret things. don't let a "debate" annoy you. if you have found a dogmatic person who is like arguing with a stone, then agree to disagree. make your point, and leave them to their debate, having said what you can say. this way, you will be less emotionally attached. it is better not to debate to "win" a debate by changing someones mind. when the only winning in a debate is if the truth is known of what is debated, and some good has come of it. (ie: debating a science law, finding the law true, or false, or extending scientific knowledge and discovery from unlikely individuals who know something, but not sure what. and you knowing more in depth can further explore to the value of scientific discovery.)i wish you all well in the debates at this forum, i hope you look to each debate as a way to work out kinks in science, or if religious, in your religion, that in your hearts you find the truth.i have enjoyed my time with you here at the EVC, and i will pray for your well being and productive debating God be with us all, and God's will be done forever, so be it-Tim Brown

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keep your mind from this way of enquiry, for never will you show that not-being is
~parmenides

just like i said you cannot argue with a stone. make your point, then leave them to their argument.for instance: creationist A Say's evolution is false.you say: all observation Say's it is, if God is, and things have changed and "evolved" then is it not evolution? and if it is, and does not prove God is or is not, but is an observation of reality, then it is not false but true. and if God is true, then evolution is by his design. and evolutionists scrutinize the truth of how it works to understand and grow the knowledge of the human race and the planet we rule for its better or for its worse. by understanding evolution, and DNA, we can potentially destroy disease by understanding how to progress evolution of man by conditions that would cause an evolutionary reaction.and creationist A replies: there is no evolution. all you said is false.then say: as you say it then, let that be for you.and what else can you say?

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keep your mind from this way of enquiry, for never will you show that not-being is
~parmenides

oooh ok. sorry =)

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keep your mind from this way of enquiry, for never will you show that not-being is
~parmenides

maybe they havent. how long would it take you to stop arguing with a stubborn 8 year old child how to rebuild a 350 4-bolt main from 1978?Edited by tesla, : added age of child

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keep your mind from this way of enquiry, for never will you show that not-being is
~parmenides

i find this interesting. because all biological matter is composed of the same base elements as what many call "rocks". i believe under the right conditions, it may be possible for rocks to become biological matter.i am however, a creationist. i believe science is the "how" of God, and that no science proves him wrong, but only proves he is.not to take away from this topic, perhaps a topic scrutinizing this potential would be an interesting debate.in the spirit of this topic, i hope our initial poster has been able to resolve the issues with how to debate with a stone.Edited by tesla, : structure

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keep your mind from this way of enquiry, for never will you show that not-being is
~parmenides

no never.

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keep your mind from this way of enquiry, for never will you show that not-being is
~parmenides