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Author Topic:   US war crime as free speech issue (help holmes sort this out)
Chiroptera
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Message 3 of 80 (247288)
09-29-2005 11:47 AM
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09-29-2005 11:11 AM


Funny. I seem to remember that there was a hue and cry when Aljazeera broadcast pictures of American casualties early in the Iraq war. But Americans could never be so hypocritical, so maybe my memory is going bad.

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Chiroptera
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Message 6 of 80 (247354)
09-29-2005 4:09 PM
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09-29-2005 1:55 PM


Ha ha ha ha. FairWitness got mad at me at one point when I pointed out that Americans were little different, as people, from anyone else in the world.
Oh wait, this isn't funny.

"Intellectually, scientifically, even artistically, fundamentalism -- biblical literalism -- is a road to nowhere, because it insists on fidelity to revealed truths that are not true." -- Katha Pollitt

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Chiroptera
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Message 7 of 80 (247355)
09-29-2005 4:17 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Silent H
09-29-2005 11:11 AM


Hi, holmes.
quote:
That's right, the word "fuck" is too offensive in an article about us soldiers mocking dead enemies using photos they have made.
This reminds me of this article written by Naomi Klein that I first read in The Nation. The article mentions a really, really cool photograph of an American soldier in Iraq. There was evidently some controversy over it (although I never heard of it outside of this article -- but then I don't own a TV and so can't keep up with the news fads). The soldier in the photo was smoking a cigarette, and people complained that it made smoking look cool. As Klein wrote:
Yes, that's right: letter writers from across the nation are united in their outrage - not that the steely-eyed, smoking soldier makes mass killing look cool, but that the laudable act of mass killing makes the grave crime of smoking look cool.

"Intellectually, scientifically, even artistically, fundamentalism -- biblical literalism -- is a road to nowhere, because it insists on fidelity to revealed truths that are not true." -- Katha Pollitt

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Chiroptera
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Message 18 of 80 (248164)
10-02-2005 11:29 AM
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10-02-2005 7:24 AM


aggressor vs defender
Hi, holmes.
Does your moral qualms depend on the fact that the US is engaging in an illegal war of aggression? I ask because I have always felt that those who are defending against a foreign invasion are justified in using a wide range of tactics to defend themselves, Geneva Conventions notwithstanding. I know if I were defending my country (or, at least the Northwestern portion of it) against a foreign invader I would certainly want to disseminate pictures of dead, even mutilated, invaders was widely as possible if it would rally my compatriots and demoralize the invaders.

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Chiroptera
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Message 21 of 80 (248187)
10-02-2005 12:42 PM
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10-02-2005 12:33 PM


Re: aggressor vs defender
quote:
That does not add up to an objective assessment of wrong....
Is there such a thing?
Just a joke. I understand what you are saying.

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