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Author Topic:   US war crime as free speech issue (help holmes sort this out)
Nuggin
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Message 2 of 80 (247284)
09-29-2005 11:40 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Silent H
09-29-2005 11:11 AM


While offensive, also predictable
While this sort of treatment is offensive, it's also very predictable.
One of the first things that happens in war is the dehumanization of your enemy. If they are people, then killing them is murder. If they are not people, then killing them is a job.
This sort of thing has been going on for a long time. And I'm not talking about Vietnam here. Similiar stuff was happening in the Spanish-American war (and just after) in the Phillipens.
This sort of thing tends to creap up whenever our military consists of mostly younger men (18-25). Kind of makes you wonder if they are the sort we want fighting wars.

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Nuggin
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Message 16 of 80 (248156)
10-02-2005 11:10 AM
Reply to: Message 8 by Silent H
09-29-2005 4:45 PM


Where we went wrong
Somewhere the nation slipped its leash.
Yup, and I can tell you exactly where -
We completely lost our moral bearings when the Religious Right decided that they had a monopoly on morality.
Now we are in a Holy War because Jesus is apparently a person friend of W's and really wanted us to attack Iraq.
When one side of a conflict is completely and absolutely 100% morally justified and right and fighting for God's side etc (Us), then whatever we do to the evil, bad, amoral, wrong, Godless enemy (them) is justified.
Unfortunately, this statement is true even when we switch who's on which side.

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Nuggin
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Message 17 of 80 (248158)
10-02-2005 11:12 AM
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10-02-2005 6:07 AM


Re: Moral Quandry (also paging Iraq War supporters)
If we can kick out people for being gay, yet allow this to happen, we are corrupt
But Gays are iccky

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