Back to the fundamentals

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Originally posted by minnemooseus:
Come on creationists:

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If the seven days of creation, the young earth, and the great flood are real - Why did God leave such a detailed worldly record to the contrary?

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The worldly record that so many scientists have carefully studied and find so convincing. Have they been deceived? Why would God do this deception?

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Moose

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These are questions that will never be answered. However, I'll bump them back to the top just for fun. I'd also like to reiterate my question of why do we have ocean basins? Did the the weight of all that water simply depress them? (Not fair for Moose to answer, however if there is a response, feel free to fire away.)I would also like to hear more about the multiple flood theory. Why are these floods not recorded in the bible?

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[This message has been edited by edge, 01-16-2002]

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Originally posted by Tranquility Base:
Moose we are saying that the flood occurred in surges - due to tectonic and tidal action we presume.

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Would you say then that the world is still in flood? Perhaps we are between surges?

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The more and more I think about it our models are not that different to yours - ours just happened very quick.

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And that's not a big difference? You want to cramp all that geological history in to, say 2000 or 3000 years? Yes, there are similarities, but in your case we have to alter many of the physical properties of matter to achieve the present situation.

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You guys have continents being inundated on - what - about 8 occasions isn't it?

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Hmm, another problem for you. It depends on where you are. Some places were not innudated at all. And how do you explain all 8 innundations in a year? What is your mechanism?

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I've seen the global sea level data through geolgoical time and it tells this story. I know we have major differences but there are some similarities.

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Only in the broades of senses. In reality any model must explain the details such as paleosoils, evaporites, animal tracks, raindrop impressions and many other features as well.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Tranquility Base:
[B]I think I can almost agree with all of your comments Edge!My main point that I have come to believe about mainstream geology is that it does not qualitatively or deterministically account for the GC to anywhere near the extent we are led to believe.[/QUOTE]Well, if you took the time to learn, I might take your comment seriously. However, you clearly have staked out your ground with Hovind, Austin, Baumgardner and others without really learning the basice mainstream stuff. You simply ignore the details.

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Our qualitative mechanism is that the earth was finally entirely covered but that in the processes of somewhat local surges, many continents and sub-continents were inundated on multiple occasions.

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I thought you almost agreed with what I wrote. You model does nothing to explain the details of the data. You have ignored that paleosoils problem and we have a list for you after that!

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[This message has been edited by edge, 05-22-2002]