ICANT writes:
Without God laws of morality there is no reason for morality to exist.
There is no God that has attempted to make me aware of any laws of morality. And I do not accept what other humans have told me are God's laws, they don't seem to make any sense.
Yet... I still have plenty of reasons for my morality to exist, many of them much more important and valid than "they come from a God." Whoever pushes the idea that a reason or purpose is "better" simply because it is externally provided is ridiculous in the extreme. Such a notion is very immature and only reduces humans to unthinking zombies.
I am positive that you are mistaken.
I think Gould said it best in, "In the Mind of the Beholder", when he stated that "no factual discovery of science can, in principle, lead us to ethical conclusions, or to convictions about intrinsic meaning."
Sounds good to me.
I don't get any of my morality from science.
I certainly don't get any of my morality from a God.
I wonder why you even proposed this quote, since it's rather obvious that morality does not have to come from either religion or science... such a quote seems rather extraneous.
Many choose otherwise because they have been taught there is no God.
I was never taught there was no God.
In fact, I was always taught that there was a God.
Most choose otherwise because they don't want to be under any authority other than their own. This includes most who claim to be christian.
I don't mind being under another's authority. I participate in groups and under hierarchies all the time.
So where do I stand?
Isn't it possible for someone to honestly want God to reach out to them, but He doesn't?
This is what I constantly do, and I constantly get nothing as a result. Obviously, then, God is either unwilling or unable to reach out to me.
Isn't it possible for someone to learn on their own, after an honest search for truth, that God likely doesn't exist because all information about Him is indistinguishable from human imagination?
That's what I did.
Isn't it possible for an atheist's morality to exist without following the scientific method or religious ideas?
My morality exists as such.
Isn't it possible to have a reason for this morality that is greater than that provided by an external God?
I have many such reasons.
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