The Universal Moral Law & Devolution since the Fall

Of course they must have been aware of it. How else could death be a "threat" to them? Not craziness - lack of knowledge. When they didn't know the difference between good and evil, they had no way of knowing that death is "bad".Edited by Ringo, : Punctuation.

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How could God threaten them with death if they didn't know what death was? Would you do what I tell you to do if I threatened you with edysowk?Obviously they knew what death was.And obviously they didn't know it was bad. They didn't know anything was bad.Surely you've heard the saying about teenagers thinking they're immortal. They see death. They know it happens. But they think "it can't happen to me."Adam and Eve were the first teenagers.

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Try to keep up. Death is a threat, but they didn't know it was a threat to them. Teenagers, remember?God the Father told his teenagers, "Look. Death happens. You can see it every day. So, be careful. Don't drink and drive."The teenagers replied, "Yeah, right. You just don't want us to have any fun."Then they matured and they learned their lesson.

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Not at all. I am looking at the plain reading of the text.There is nothing in the text that suggests there was no death at any time in the history of the world. There is nothing in the text that suggests a "fall".Rather, eating the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil made Adam and Eve more like God. That's what the text says.

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Interesting that you don't provide any scripture to back up that assertion. But we're getting off topic here, aren't we?I can never get any "fallist" to actually substantiate "the fall" from a scriptural viewpoint. How about opening a topic dedicated to that proposition?

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No.Do we have to remind you of slavery and geocentrism in every thread? The one thing that's consistent about traditional Christian theology is that it's consistently fallible.

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You should know better than that.If you want to know Hemingway, do you read Hemingway or do you rely on other people's commentaries on Hemingway?

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That the authors of Genesis were authors just like any other author.That Paul's interpretation of Genesis was no more valid than anybody else's interpretation.That Paul is less "believable" on Genesis than the authors of Genesis.

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I'm not following the logic here.If Adam and Eve ate from the tree of life to maintain their immortality, what about the (other) animals? Weren't they immortal too? Wouldn't they all have had to eat from the tree of life?That seems like a lot to expect from one tree.And what about the animals outside the garden? When they were fruitful and multiplied and filled the earth, would there still be only one tree of life to sustain them all? Or would each one have to make a pilgrimage to the garden to eat his one-time immortality-fruit?Edited by Ringo, : Spelling.

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