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Author Topic:   The Flood- one explanation
Abshalom
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Message 10 of 129 (73219)
12-15-2003 11:46 PM
Reply to: Message 7 by roxrkool
12-15-2003 11:36 PM


Q: "Without Noah, why do you need a flood? "
A: "To separate the old world from the new world (also symbolized by the death of Methusella, the oldest living human extant before the Deluge)."

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Abshalom
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Message 28 of 129 (73393)
12-16-2003 2:51 PM
Reply to: Message 25 by Eta_Carinae
12-16-2003 1:58 PM


Re: Collision With Massive Something
Quote: "The only way to tilt the Earth would be a direct collision by something pretty massive. I might calculate this tonight for fun but my guesstimate right now is the colliding object would have to be at least as massive as Mars."
Comment: I wondered when someone would finally catch on. Congratulations, Eta, you "guesstimate" regarding Mars is very nearly right on the money!
What actually happened is that Venus was originally in an oblique orbit that took it inside of and outside of our solar system kind of like a comet. On one of it's trips through our system, it came a little too close to Jupiter and had all of its water sucked out of it's frozen atmosphere. This huge mass of carooming ice collided with Mars, instantly melted on account of the heat created by the collision, combined with the water then existent on Mars, but because of the diminutive size of Mars, and due to Mars's relatively low gravitational pull, this huge mass of water continued right on its erratic path through space. Next stop Earth!
Well, as this huge mass of intersolarsystemic water approached Earth, it collided with the Moon which just happened to be about the same mass as this water cloud. The Moon was pushed toward and collided with Earth in advance of the water cloud. The Moon veered off back into space much as a billiard ball would, and miraculously (due to some divine English spin applied by old Genesis Fats himself) came to rest back in its previous orbit. The lunar collision created a huge indentation on one side of the Earth that the water cloud immediately filled and over-topped. The over-topping wave action caused Noah's Flood, and subsequent erosion and sedimentation filled in the indentation left by the Moon.
Venus came to rest in its present position between Mecury and Earth, and after a year or so of flooding, the excess alien space water evaporated from Earth and back into space due to its anti-gravitational isotopes.
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Abshalom
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Message 32 of 129 (73402)
12-16-2003 3:20 PM
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12-16-2003 2:57 PM


Re: Just Another Spin
Q: "Are you serious????"
A: "No, are you????"
Q: "This was a Velikovsky idea wasn't it?"
A: "Velikovsky who?"
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Abshalom
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Message 41 of 129 (73458)
12-16-2003 5:09 PM
Reply to: Message 35 by John Paul
12-16-2003 4:34 PM


Mic Mac Flood Explanation?
J.P., I would be interested in the Micmac traditional flood myth if you are familiar with it. Many of the Artic Native Americans point to fossils, sea shells, and whale bones "deposited" at high altitudes as proof of their flood myths. Sound familiar?
Ooops, I forgot this: Flood Stories from Around the World
Scroll down to "North America"
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Abshalom
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Message 93 of 129 (74081)
12-18-2003 10:37 AM
Reply to: Message 91 by roxrkool
12-18-2003 10:08 AM


Re: Creationists
Base sea level datum is established in North America courtesy of the National Geodetic Survey who may be accessed at: Home
If you own good, high accuracy GPS equipment, you can communicate with the government's satelite system and determine any point on earth within centimeters of its real horizontal and vertical location. The vertical location is based upon NGVD (National Geodetic Vertical Datum) which has been adjusted relatively minutely and only for accuracy from the original standard USCGS (United States Coastal and Geodetic Survey) datum set back in the 1920's.
Unless I am mistaken, the total adjustment in the Midwest has amounted to only .18 meters in all that time. I don't know how that relates to sea level changes over the same period of time, but then maybe you may research it more closely using the link given above and other data available on the Internet.
Personally, I'm assuming that the base sea level datum will remain constant regardless of sea level changes due to ice cap degradation or accumulation simply because that would be the most practical way to measure the change in sea level in the first place.
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Abshalom
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Message 94 of 129 (74149)
12-18-2003 4:50 PM
Reply to: Message 93 by Abshalom
12-18-2003 10:37 AM


It's a Wacked-out Wacky World
So, having provided a link to a sane site in the previous post, how about this one: firststepsofpreparation for those of you who want to get ready for the pole-shifting, crust-spinning, plate-tilting, rockin', rollin', fast times at ridge raising high?
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Abshalom
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Message 96 of 129 (74151)
12-18-2003 5:26 PM
Reply to: Message 95 by roxrkool
12-18-2003 5:16 PM


Sea Level Effects on Climatic Changes
Rox:
Start here: http://search.csmonitor.com/durable/2001/06/21/p15s1.htm
There is a huge, whirlpool-like down-draft current in the North Atlantic that powers the major currents that strongly influence climatic conditions especially along the coasts of Greenland, Iceland, and the British Isles. If this huge "whirlpool" powerdrive is shut down, the world's climate will feel the effects. There is some evidence that polar ice is melting at a pace that may clog the North Atlantic Current with more ice-melt than it can handle and threaten to shut the current down.
Put "North Atlantic Current" into your search engine for more info.
Peace.
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Abshalom
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Message 99 of 129 (74232)
12-19-2003 10:04 AM
Reply to: Message 98 by NeilUnreal
12-18-2003 9:40 PM


Gateway Re-entry
Neil:
Forgive my one year late, post-Woodstock visit to Haight, a tardiness that resulted in my Gateway re-entry October 31, 1969, a nightmare that has not ended to this day. If you can remember the route through the maze, please inform me as to whether I should exit the Large Door or the Small Door. It's been so long since the White Rabbit passed this way, I can no longer distinguish his paw prints.

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Abshalom
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Message 126 of 129 (74322)
12-19-2003 3:50 PM
Reply to: Message 107 by NeilUnreal
12-19-2003 12:38 PM


Right Now!
Mr. Unreal: I hope you're happy now. I've had this lyric goin' 'round in my head for three hours now:
"Come on people now, smile on your brother
Everybody get together
got to love one another
Right Now
Right Now
Right Now!"
Peace, and good fortune, Neil

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