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Author Topic:   Who's Held To Higher Standards At EvC?
CK
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Message 2 of 314 (168917)
12-16-2004 1:04 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Buzsaw
12-16-2004 12:59 PM


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The ID creationist is often held to an impossible standard, that of debating strictly on secularist terms and under the secularist application of the scientific laws
But hold on - is that's the whole POINT of the ID movement? Something that they can point towards and say "hey this is scientific!". The real problem is the the scientific standard is too high for it to reach.
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Now Percy will likely go on another of his usual diatribes about my alleged incomprehensiveness and that yada. Imo, that's his way of dodging direct dialog about the specifics of my posts.
That just rubbish. The sad truth is that you have absolutely no idea what you are on about. That thread about the 3 laws was quite laughable. I don't think that anyone can be bothered anymore to work up the effort to explain to you why you are so wrong - it's just too much work. Your grasp of the basics is so weak and you have never indicated any indication of grasping what people are saying to you.
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Message 84 of 314 (169088)
12-16-2004 5:25 PM
Reply to: Message 83 by Maestro232
12-16-2004 5:23 PM


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I think non-Christian scientists come up with experiments that they SUBJECTIVELY determine there is no God
Which experiments are those? can you name one? Since scientist is unable to test for gods either way I find this difficult to believe.

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CK
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Message 162 of 314 (169408)
12-17-2004 1:35 PM
Reply to: Message 160 by Maestro232
12-17-2004 1:22 PM


point us towards one of those experiments - piss in the pot or get off it.
If you can find one that has not been shown the door here before I'll be surprised.
(hint: Names like duane,Austin are not worth bothering us with).
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CK
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Message 170 of 314 (169420)
12-17-2004 2:03 PM
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12-17-2004 2:01 PM


Re: welcome, Maestro!
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I believe ID applications of science should be allowed in discussion and debate here, regardless of whether it is considered "nonsense" by those of counterpart ideology.
Well if you want to discuss them in terms of science - you need to actually understand science - something you have never shown any evidence of.
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Message 172 of 314 (169423)
12-17-2004 2:05 PM
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12-17-2004 2:03 PM


Re: welcome, Maestro!
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I think it is fair game to discuss what we think science tells us
You keep making statements like this - but where? what experiments should we be taking notice of?
Like I said before - piss in the pot or get off it.

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CK
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Message 175 of 314 (169429)
12-17-2004 2:10 PM
Reply to: Message 174 by Maestro232
12-17-2004 2:08 PM


Re: welcome, Maestro!
That's a dodge - we can go on one of the many macro-evolution threads to discuss the matter to your heart's content. feel free to pick one.
So once again - which creationist experiments/papers are we suppose to examine and take notice of?
Just one will be fine.

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Message 177 of 314 (169431)
12-17-2004 2:12 PM
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12-17-2004 2:11 PM


Re: welcome, Maestro!
Link ?

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Message 218 of 314 (169523)
12-17-2004 5:07 PM
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12-17-2004 5:06 PM


Re: high standards for experimental method
you've got nothing have you? just a series of one-liners?

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