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Message 93 of 314 (169110)
12-16-2004 5:42 PM


Topic Reminder
This topic hasn't drifted too far, but given the high post rate it seems a little volatile, so I thought I'd issue a topic reminder.
The topic is what standards should the contributions of evolutionists and Creationists be held to. Should they be held to the same standards or different standards, and what should those standards be?

--Percy
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Message 227 of 314 (169578)
12-17-2004 7:09 PM


Topic in Trouble
Nosy closed this thread a couple hundred messages ago because of topic drift, and while I recognized this danger, I thought the topic important in order to be fair to Buzsaw, and I thought I could keep the topic on course. But I also thought most of the dialogue would be with Buzsaw and didn't anticipate Maestro232 interjecting his hyperactive and very brief message style and pushing the message count so high so fast. A couple hundred messages in 30 hours is bit tough to moderate carefully, but I'd like to try to bring this topic back on track.
The topic is whether standards are being unevenly applied here at EvC Forum. Before one can answer this question, one must establish what the standards are.
Evolutionists believe that the standards of science should be applied, and science was characterized as being natural, supported by evidence, falsifiable and replicable. There are other ways to characterize it, and some may want to do so.
Maestro232 rejects the standards of science, but hasn't proposed what standards he would use in their place.
Buzsaw is still upset about unfair treatment in his God/thermo thread and hasn't engaged the topic yet.
Further discussion in this thread should address whether the standards of science are being fairly and evenly applied here. Provide evidence by reference to specific messages as necessary. Further discussion can also argue that there are different standards that should instead be applied, but you must be specific about what those standards are.
And please, no more replying to detailed arguments with short replies that address none of the details and merely repeat your position. The Forum Guidelines require that participants work toward moving the discussion forward.
I'm posting this as Admin rather than as Percy to indicate that participants will be held to the requests being made.

--Percy
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Message 296 of 314 (170122)
12-20-2004 1:48 PM
Reply to: Message 259 by Buzsaw
12-20-2004 11:54 AM


Re: Appearances
buzsaw writes:
NosyNed writes:
You have been asked to show an example using other methods for arriving at conclusions about the natural world. Use an example or two to demonstrate how it works and why it is better.
Aren't we drifting from topic here? The topic has more to do with who's standard requirements for discussion/debate are higher.
In Message 227 I said, "The topic is whether standards are being unevenly applied here at EvC Forum. Before one can answer this question, one must establish what the standards are."
In other words, if there's a standard other than science that you'd like to apply, please give us a couple examples, or at least describe it. I think Nosy's inquiry is on-topic, and an answer might provevery helpful toward moving the discussion forward.

--Percy
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