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pink sasquatch
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Message 125 of 161 (180446)
01-25-2005 12:45 PM
Reply to: Message 124 by contracycle
01-25-2005 9:46 AM


Re: And the winner is ... RAZD?
In all respscts your argument is hogwash. Here are some exaples of features that humans exhibit whioch you need to explain, then:
Your list of a dozen or so features don't include hair, or lack thereof. Neither site mentioned hair that I saw.
It seems to me RAZD is arguing sexual selection of hairlessness, so why exactly does he need to explain those dozen mostly skeletal features?
Kudos to your nicely referenced strawman.

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pink sasquatch
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Message 133 of 161 (180828)
01-26-2005 12:47 PM
Reply to: Message 131 by contracycle
01-26-2005 4:56 AM


Re: And the winner is ... RAZD?
Of all the arrogant bullshit...
Nice... you post some "evidence" (seemingly?) unrelated to the topic at hand and it's somehow my fault.
Therefore it is entirely accurate to demonstrate the other evidence that corroborates the running ape model and which contributes to the model as a whole.
Two of your the thirteen points you list involved cooling. None of them mention hair.
Thus the "running ape model" which you seem to be referencing doesn't include references to hairlessness.
The discussion is sexual selection of hairlessness.
I still don't see why RAZD needs to explain, say, stabilization by "huge" buttocks size, with his argument of sexual selection of hairlessness.
As RAZD has been at pains to point out, what matters is consistency with all observed phenomenon.
Sexually selected hairlessness is not inconsistent with independent, fitness-based evolution of the other features you listed above that contribute to a running ape model. If it is, please explain specifically how.
I'll check out the websites you quote in your response to RAZD - they seem more to the point, and on my quick scan I noticed that one states that sexual selection may have played a major role in the loss of hair.
And as far as me being an "interjectionist", if you want to have a one-on-one debate with RAZD, move it to a Great Debate topic. This is an open discussion forum.

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