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Coyote
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Message 10 of 79 (518870)
08-09-2009 12:42 AM
Reply to: Message 9 by wirkkalaj
08-09-2009 12:30 AM


The Fall and other myths
I have good hearing, good smell, good taste and sight. Some people do have worse than others, but all of us have worse than the original creation. The whole of Creation has been in bondage to decay ever since the Fall of Man in the Garden of Eden.
The Fall?
That's a religious belief, not something supported by scientific data.
In fact, it is absolutely contradicted by scientific data.
This is the Science Forum. If you want to persist in believing this myth, perhaps you can provide some scientific data to support your position?
(Please consider the advice of my tagline in preparing your answer.)

Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

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Coyote
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Message 34 of 79 (519797)
08-17-2009 11:04 AM
Reply to: Message 30 by mike the wiz
08-17-2009 5:21 AM


Re: Creationist Answer
My main answer is that biblical creationism explains that this is not a perfect system. Secondly, it follows that in a fallen world many problems will abound.
This is the Science Forum, and it seems you are peddlin' religion.
Unless you have scientific evidence to back up these claims, perhaps?

Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

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Message 46 of 79 (520222)
08-19-2009 11:51 PM
Reply to: Message 45 by themasterdebator
08-19-2009 11:11 PM


Predictions of creationism
What predictions does Creationism make?
How have these predictions been tested against reality?
Creationism has made a lot of predictions--they're a dime a dozen ($19.95 for the whole book) in the various creationist literature and websites.
Problem is, those predictions (based entirely on religious beliefs) fare poorly when tested against empirical evidence. That doesn't deter creationists, as more predictions (or the same refuted ones) are easy to come by ("Get our next book, only $29.95, and see how evolution has failed!").
Examples of major failed predictions: global flood; young earth; geocentrism; devolution based on "the fall;" and "kinds."
Do those failures effect TRVE Believers? Not a whit. Empirical evidence has no effect on their religious beliefs.

Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

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