center of the earth

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It is admitted we really don't know a lot about the center of the earth, really.

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What does the Bible say about the center of the earth? What do the spirits say?What methodology should we use for discovering new things about the center of the earth? Science or meditation?

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All that remains, then is to see if we can interpret things in the best way. If we have faith in our interpretations of the evidence, say we lean to the string theory, or alternate dimension (s), or quantum theory, it doesn't mean we disregard evidence.

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Why do you need faith in your interpretation? Either it's consistent with the evidence or it isn't. If we have faith in our interpretation, then we test it with objective evidence and allow others to test it as well. Depending on spirit realms does the opposite, it removes the possibility of testing any idea and instead relies on faith in non-existent evidence instead of faith in our interpretations. Scientists do have faith in that they are interpreting things correctly, but that faith is due to the stringent testing that goes into scientific theories. It is the same faith that you exercise when you press on your brake pedal. You can't know if the car will actually stop or not, but you have faith that it will because of the evidence of previous tests. This is quite different than religious faith, where the outcome is never known and the evidence for the cause is never evidenced. For example, would you pray to God to stop your car or press the brake pedal?

Before we move on, perhaps you could answer some questions:1. What evidence led you to hypothesize that a large diamond is found in the center of the earth?2. What evidence led you to hypothesize that there are "hulls" or "watery chambers" in the earth?If we can work with your evidence perhaps we can move forward in a more logical fashion.

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So, in effect, as I understand it, that would be because old age is assumed?

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No, old age is supported by the evidence. Why do we have to keep going over the difference between "supported theories" and "assumptions". Go into the Dates and Dating forum and choose a topic, or start one on your own. You will quickly find that the old age of the earth is not simply assumed but a consequence of volumes of data, none of which support a young earth. The only assumption I see is that evidence for a young earth exists.

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And, also, in assuming, rather than a created earth, we are results of some expansion, out of the region of the speck. (early big bang)

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Again, this is not assumed but bore out of supported theories. Supported theories are not assumptions.

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All that to say, the evidence that led them to their conclusions seems thin.

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No matter how thin it is, it is still more evidence than you have offered for a gold covered diamond gyro surrounded by water in the center of the earth. Thin is a hell of a lot better than totally absent.

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Can I possibly put a band, or cover of gold all around our diamond gyro? Say, somewhere around the area between the inner mantle, and the "core", or diamond, without getting out of 'the possible'?

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No, because you have not given evidence that would support it's existence. I am not going to consider your model until you give me specific evidence, specific predictions, and specific models of how it would work.

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About that gold part, that was a question, not a new commandment. Since then, upon reflection, it seems gold might make sense more for the mantle? This is a question as well, I just want to see if my hunch on this is right. See if it could withstand the pressure, and the waves! Why gold? Well, that'll have to stay under my vest for the moment. Evidence? I certainly want it to fit all the real evidence we have.

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I still don't think you understand what I am asking. In science there is a method, the scientific method. In this method you start with observations and then form a hypothesis. I am asking you to do the same. What observations led you to the hypothesis that there is a large diamond at the center of the earth, with or without gold foil.As a comparison, the observation that S waves did not penetrate a certain layer in the earth led to the hypothesis that there was a liquid layer. I want you to show me the specific data that supports a diamond at the center of the earth.